From: "John Foster" <borealis-AT-mercuryspeed.com>
Subject: Re: grave thots on a great hack
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:53:13 -0700


Rene,
>    What is not seen, almost by nobody, is that all philosophical items,
>    like the ones we're discussing now, and while discussing them, are
>    ALREADY in subjectivity and everydayness. So that we only can see
>    ourselves in everything. Like we give away the tree in the field, and
>    stick to the image of it in our head. But this has immediate and grave
>    consequences for the most factical of our observations and valuations.
>    For instance that torture happens, but that that's not really getting
>    through to us. Not being able to let the tree be, is not being able
>    to let human beings be. The Da, and its openness, are not *opened* and
>    kept open, so that the necessarily lying subject makes itself broader
and
>    sterner. This can now almost physically be felt.

When you write 'ALREADY' you mean 'subsist' or do you mean 'persist'? This
expression is a literal translation for something, for an attribute, but not
a value of being-in-the-world; however the example 'a tree' is a value, thus
the tree is part of the gestalt which gives 'away' itself. In a sense the
term 'already' is also a way of saying that something is there 'before' but
'before what?

I think the imposition of 'giving away' the tree, or not letting humans be,
is an amplification, an expansion of what is imposed from without. Something
'foreign' and perhaps maligned is added after the phenonmenal presence of
the tree and the human who could be left to be. Therefore in cruelty, and
torture, the tree and the human before were without 'valuation' or
'devaluation'. In the end, that works out to assigning a certain 'utility'
or handiness to the thing present which persists: both human and
dendrological.

By being opened it is brought before by being in the light. It persists both
in awareness and before thought. It becomes a pure object of idea, one which
can be made to find a reason for some other program: 'trees cause pollution'
[Ronald Reagan], and Iraqis are 'terrorists'. Both ideas of which are purely
'conceptual' or 'rules' for thinking 'concretely.' Heidegger wrote that
concepts are much like 'rules' or like Descartes, 'regula', [like
regulations] which 'channel' and direct thinking 'inauthentically' at times,
but not primordially as 'act-concepts' and 'act-concept-ideas'.



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>    WHEN this is true, THEN all denials of it are fatal. Fatal in the
sense,
>    that then there's no possible way back or out. That is going to be
terrible.
>    Anthony's Goddog should be very alarming, but ... it is not getting
through.
>    We're in the course of total acceptation.
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>  in heine's ode
> the speaker/subject is at once obliterated by the night and the hearer and
> interpreter of her comunings, but the question "what's to be done?"
obtrudes
> to no effect, ...thence the annihilation of subjectivity entails loss of
> will-to-do and facticity? how can one abscent from care and guilt of being
> in the factical world?

It is the 'already' made way of veiwing the world which we all share that I
object to strongly, especially the hammer-formed kind of Anthony, whose
world we can hardly share in because it is does not persist, nor subsist,
but changes as we like to predict. Philosophizing with a hammer, or breaking
clay tablets of a secular-political idealogy kind over the forehead day
after day, then having to examine what that the clay tablets were
'groundless' anyway. Opinion always [like already] persists but it always
changes. The tree persists, as does the image of the tree, as long as we
leave it substantial 'alone' just as we should 'leave those alone who desire
to be alone, or need to be left alone, including tribes in the Amazon who
have had not contact with the western world.'
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>   Heidegger's de-subjectivation is sthing completely else from
post-Hegelian
>   pessimism. But in order to see that, first Nietzsche's distinction of
>   passive and active nihilism must be thought. Overcome the widerwille to
>   active nihilism. What is finished, must be execreted. We're witnessing
>   the effects of physical and mental obesity. If these phenomena are left
out
>   as 'ontical' and 'factical', one cannot but reach partial truth: lies,
in
>   order to save the shit. One will get uglier, and less able to hide it.
>   More and more dangerous therefore.
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>   As to the mirroring, i can only advise to hear the words and forget
about
>   them, like with everything truly Heideggerian. (so that once it will
come
>   form outside subjectivity) But to do that, one must be ready to accept
the
>   verdict of subjectivity, by saying: that's *me*.
>   The only alternative is: looking for victims (Wolfowitz cabal). And turn
THEM
>   into dogs.
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>   rene
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>   cave canem
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>   some time ago i had a pitbull barking at me. Dogdammit!


Dobermans can be intimidating. Over half the pitbulls in one large town here
have bitten people. Might want to annihilate these weapons of mass
destruction? Not let them be. Or turn them loose in the frozen barrens. That
way they'll just starve without the dogfood, and wolves will fuck'em over
good.

chao

john
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