From: GEVANS613-AT-aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:13:25 EDT
Subject: Re: Expansion and Heideggerian Futilitarianism


 
 


Wherein and where-by are all subjectivities given as what  they are? 

Phrased this way the "wherein" and "where-by" more obviously  come to be 
located in language, or speech, to be more exact.  When one  speaks, the 
central 
ambiguity of subjectivity, of being a subject, is  introduced in and 
through one's way of saying what one says. One cannot  speak without saying 
what one has to say this way or that. 
Once spoken,  what is usually considered the subjectivity of the 
subject, is now   explicit, is given material, tangible form.  The cat 
is out of the bag! 
 
Jud:
Dear Nunc - The way I see it there is nothing remotely 'ambiguous' about  
speaking.  The act of 
talking makes it quite plain that one is the speaker.  One  either speaks — 
or one remains silent.
If one speaks one HAS to choose some words to say what one is  attempting to 
communicate.
There is nothing mystical or ambiguous about this. It is a physiological  
fact. We open our mouths,
wag the tongue and our ideas spew out in the form of spoken words.
If one is speaking or crossing the road and one finishes speaking or  reaches 
the other side,
the words have been spoken, or the other side of the road has been reached  — 
it is as simple as that.
The act has been accomplished. The judgements based on our  individual  
personal impressions and 'subjective' feelings
will have been only partly and vaguely communicated in the act of social  
relation — but a least an act of 
communication will have been executed, albeit inadequately.
Subjectivity - objectivity — like any other abstraction can NEVER be given  
material, tangible form.
If you are capable of creating a tangible material form out of  abstractional 
 'subjectivity' you are wasting your time 
as a university lecturer — you could be on TV earning millions, for  only 
Jesus Christ is said to have pulled 
off those sort of parapsychological tricks. 


Allen:
Enter "rhetoric." Through the rhetorical possibilities available to  
say  one's saying this way or that  one attempts to hide one's  
"subjectivity" by saying one's saying as 
if it were not just one's  way  of saying, but the saying of what is.  
 
Jud:
One doesn't 'say ones saying'  - one speaks certain chosen words from  one's 
vocabulary in order to convey meaning,
or in the way Heidegger practiced: one speaks certain chosen words from  
one's vocabulary in order to convey 
fancy-sounding meaninglessness. Rhetoric is a verbal weapon used by people  
using language effectively to please or persuade,
in the manner of Heidegger in his high flown style; mistranslations of the  
Greek, vomit-inducing neologisms, excessive use of verbal ornamentation and  
confused and empty style. Restricted to plain speaking and a straight forward  
unambiguous format,  Heideggerianism would fizzle-out overnight as utterly  
laughable and comedic on par with the Rowan and Martin Laugh-in.

Allen:
This move requires conventions of proof,  method. . .SCIENCE.  
Philosophy, Heidegger claims, is unique amongst the 
human practices  "invented" to  deal with this problem of subjectivity, in 
that it proves  nothing, 
and is therefore useless to any endeavor outside of itself because  it says 
what it says with the full 
recognition that its saying is no   more than a basic movement of factical 
life.
 
Jud: 
Here for once he speaks the truth — that is if he speaks of  
transcendentalist 'philosophy.' [cough!]
Analytical philosophy [or better still nominalistic philosophy]  is  another 
matter, for it deals with that which exists in the world  and not  with the 
human 'subjective' subject and his 'problems' of  'angst' and fear of the world, 
and artificially constructed 'Daseins' or 'Being  in the world', and does not 
wail that "only a God can save us now" and other  weakling rubbish suitable 
for rusk-nibblers, but deals with practical problems  concerning how the world 
really is, and what exists and what doesn't. The  subjectivity and the moaning 
 bit the analyticals leave  to the subjectivists and Heideggerian [only a God 
can save us now]  Futilitarians.

Allen:
But as the basic movement of factical life that it is, the saying 
of  philosophy insists on continually throwing its own subjectivity into 
question,  by way of 
moving towards its essential interchangeability with all other  
subjectivities.  This questioning guarentees 
incompleteness because of  the impossibility of reaching this 
interchangability in and through 
one's  saying, even though it( the interchangeability of 
subjectivities) is  "essential" to  the thinking/existential analytic of  
Dasein. 
 
Jud:
As long as it is plain that this philosophical doctrine is the Heideggerian  
one all that you say is true.
Heideggerianism IS interchangeable with most other mental pathologies and  
personality problems such as
feeling of indefinable anguish, death, insecurity, fear of the outside  
world, helplessness [Only a God can save us], etc.  In fact strictly from a  
psychological point of view it is probably true to characterise Heideggerianism  as 
a mild form of mental disturbance and neurophysical  imbalance.

Allen:
I think I managed to keep the ambiguity essential, but whether I did or not  
... 
 
Jud:
Like all competent Heideggerians your skilful handling of  ambiguity, rather 
than spoiling everything with plain unambiguity of  speech is a credit to you.
You would have made a wonderful politician, lawyer or  psychologist Nunc. 
When I first came to Heideggerianism I was contemptuous  of the equivocation, 
evasion and doublespeak, but now I enjoy it — it's like  playing word-games or 
philosophical charades.  One grows to like it — as it  is a form of conceptual 
crosswords or semantic scrabble. The bottom  line.  There is NO WAY that 
Heideggerianism could be called 'Philosophy,' —  not in a month of sundays — but 
with further familiarity it can become amusing  and enjoyable as a way of 
talking about the world of the imagination [rather  than the REAL world] as one 
takes it all with a fistful of salt that is... and  everyone has to earn a crust.
 
 
Best wishes,


 
Nullius in Verba

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