File spoon-archives/heidegger.archive/heidegger_2004/heidegger.0406, message 14


Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 11:28:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: henry <healanthenry-AT-aol.com>
Subject: Re: Humiliation Studies in Iraq




bob scheetz wrote on 6/1/04, 11:10 PM:

 >
 > >
 > > tillman: a young man who could have benefited greatly from some
 > intimate
 > > time with the great prophetess, tina turner.
 > > i am most painfully aware that tillman incarnates all of this
 > tragedy by
 > > his disasterous, deceived, apolitical, naive attempt to grasp his sense
 > > of duty. so goes that sweet girl, america...into the dirty sheets with
 > > dick cheney and don rumsfailed. porn indeed.
 >
 > ahab/jn brown is tragic; tillman, just insipid, ...that's to say, when
 > not
 > vicious, -how much of the bob kerrey heroism do ya spose he accomplished?

you are correct, bob. and my blarney about tillman incarnating "all" the 
tragedy is truly hyper-blooey. tillman completely enscribed his own 
tragedy. bob jerrey continues to dodge and feint his... as do we all, 
even us less vicious boys.

update on chalabi: could this tinpot be the kharmic resolve of that 
whole ontological methodology, from Phillipines to Panama, Vietnam to 
Iran, Salvador to Pakistan, Telaviv to jerusalem, that is the history of 
amerika bringin' freedom to oh so many global citizens this past forty 
years. and so chalabi and a drunk, and the pristine example, iran, 
o'erthrows first neo-cons, then BushCo in Nov, and then what possiblities?

if so, the homeroom 'elections' of the past few days in Iraq will not 
hold, and the US-focussed derision would run us off and suck in what in 
Iraq?



 > > the taint of heidegger, as he knew, i think, is in intentionality,
 > > 'cause he followed it up thru nietz and wtp; his beatitude clarified
 > > somehow:
 > > gelassenheit
 > >
 > > ...perhaps the serenity that is key to overcoming "addiction."
 >
 > you mean "wtw"? ...and is it a transmutation of "care"?


yeah and yeah: i'm too clumsy with the wtp/wtw distinctions ("as with 
many..." chants the chorus, oh, yes, i hear it, and soundly, too);

but, isn't the current truth of being [indeed, will to will] the 
method-logy for reading care/Sorge as the temporally-bound originary 
transcendence of dasein? this meanin' that proximally and for the most 
part, ie, most powerfully, will to will is our only care in the world, 
BUT little and lovey-dovey possiblities are available between the cracks 
of such a temporally-induced ontological structure. (this is my OD 
distinction and why I could never resolve with dear-departed ol' anthony.)

the question for hen is not gestell = no exit?
i think there's a plenty dispersed among the mostly idle, mostly wimpy
cultural practices that sustain us even in their wimp...

Newly disclosed (to me) deathstars bring new cosmological light to my 
play with kharma:  it seems these gargantuan hyper-novae disintegrating 
megastars could be the universe's answer to the nastiness of life forms: 
as these super explosions 'cleanse' randomly all sectors of the 
universe.  but according to our experts, no giant mega deathstar 
activity is expected in our future, up close and personal.  nonetheless, 
gives a whole new taste to the term "gamma rays."


 >
 > >
 > >
 > >  > ..."rigor of kharma" as in "mortis"?  please elaborate, ...when
 > you get
 > >  > time, btween the parade and picnic
 > >
 > >
 > > i am not sure, but mortis is what i'm left with at the gelassenheit
 > > stage, but this more: marx's science of work is very cool, but its a
 > > piece of a bigger thing or a bigger think, i think.
 >
 > besides hegel, i take it you mean, ...but finally, i don't see how you
 > can
 > subordinate one to the other?

nope. that whole die-electic just appears to 19th cent. so hegel's out 
if one is making the three-step so smooth and necessary. rather, the 
pseudo-religious aspect behind marx's grasp of labor... that bigger 
think is about new serenity around property, value, labor... so that fun 
gits put into the equation rather than fuckin' up the man 'cause i'm a 
prole, or fuckin' up a prole, because the man made me... while gawd is 
the deathstar a'watchin'




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