Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:11:50 +0000 Subject: Re: The heidegger list - PLEASE READ From: "baldypeep" <michael-AT-sandwich-de-sign.co.uk> >From: "Henk van Tuijl" <hvtuijl-AT-xs4all.nl> >To: <heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU> >Subject: Re: The heidegger list - PLEASE READ >Date: Fri, Nov 26, 2004, 5:55 pm > > Dear Malgosia, > > Thanks for the opportunities offered by this list during the years of its > existence. > > > Best regards, > Henk van Tuijl Moi aussi! regards michael pennamacoor > > > From: "malgosia askanas" <ma-AT-panix.com> > To: <heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU> > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 6:45 PM > Subject: The heidegger list - PLEASE READ > > >> Dear All, >> >> This is to let you know that in about two weeks I intend to close down >> the >> heidegger list. This decision is part of a wider set of decisions >> having >> to do with the present circumstances of the Spoon Collective - which, >> as you >> probably know, has been running this list. >> >> The Spoon Collective, of which I am the sole surviving founder, has >> been >> operating continually for over 10 years. Of the 8 people who currently >> constitute it, 3 have been in it basically from the very beginning, and >> almost >> all the others for almost as long. >> >> When the Spoon Collective was originally created, a crucial aspect of >> its life >> was our own passionate involvement in the lists we created or took >> over. >> As vehicles for bringing into mutual contact and confrontation >> thinking >> people from all over the computerized world - people from astoundingly >> different walks of life and with astoundingly different ways of >> thinking, >> but with a shared passion for more accurate perception and deeper >> understanding >> - these lists seemed to us to present a stupendous potential for >> evolving >> new modes of thought and new modes of life. And it is essential to >> note that >> when we were motivated by a thirst for new modes of thought and life, >> it was >> for _ourselves_ that we wanted them. Our project was not about >> providing a >> public or academic or political service, discharging a societal duty, >> or >> providing platforms for this or that political organization or >> orientation - >> rather, it was about changing life - the life we think and live - right >> at the >> present moment. >> >> Over the years, however, our relationship with our lists gradually >> changed, >> and we now find our collective endeavor basically reduced to an >> indifferent >> performance of a not-excessively-bothersome piece of labor. The >> reasons for >> this are undoubtedly complex - the first and simplest one, perhaps, >> being that >> the same group of people has been doing the same thing for 10 years. >> If our >> goal had been less the stability of existing lists and more the >> preservation >> of our own passion, we probably could have done better. In any case, >> we find >> ourselves a bunch of burnt out and apathetic bureaucrats. >> >> I personally find thie prolongation of this situation no longer >> tolerable or >> sensical. As a result, I have (1) announced that I am quitting the >> Spoon >> Collective; (2) decided to close down a number of lists that I have >> been >> responsible for; and (3) declared the end of the Spoon Collective as a >> certain historic formation, and stipulated that the name no longer be >> used for >> whatever the present members may undertake in the future. >> >> I, of course, cannot judge the value of any particular list from any >> perspective but my own - and neither would I want to. Only each of you >> can >> decide whether you value this list enough to step in and recreate it >> somewhere >> else. If any of you wants to do this, I can make available to you a >> copy >> of the subscription list, a tarred and gzipped copy of the archive, and >> software support for a smooth transition. The present list will stop >> operating >> around December 10th. >> >> A number of the other members of Spoon have expressed an interest in >> either >> continuing their present lists or initiating other collective projects >> at >> Virginia. We very much hope that no matter what develops, the Spoon >> archives, >> which, in large part, constitute an eminently useful and fascinating >> resource, >> can continue to be housed in their present location. In addition, a >> copy >> of the archives is being installed at the domain driftline.org, where >> they >> will soon be accessible over the Web. If anybody would like to house >> additional copies of the full or individual archives elsewhere, this >> would >> of course increase the goodness. >> >> >> Yours, >> -malgosia >> >> >> --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- >> >> > > > > > --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > --- from list heidegger-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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