File spoon-archives/list-proposals.archive/list-p_1995/list-p_Jun.95, message 103


Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 09:57:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: fido <jfr10-AT-columbia.edu>
Subject: Re: Daydream


Tom, I am still not clear on FPSP-[Heidegger], and something in your last 
post made it even more confusing. Do you mean PNPN-[Heidegger] as in 
proper name? Or do you mean [I][you]-[Heidegger]?

SUBSTANTIVELY, I think a listname with a million hyphens or a million 
initials (an acronym) is a dud. Sorry, it's the 90's. I want it in prose.

I wonder what positions you feel have evaporated from conversation? We
seem, here, to be having an exchange of shifters I/you, one thing you
seemed to be interested in (and, incidentally, one thing that some people
have been engaging with from the beginning of spoons, off and on). Sometimes 
this is good; sometimes this is not good, as when one [you] gets delegated
specific material authority--a situation which, it seems to me, this list
is meant to question to some extent.

For my part, I keep bringing up historical time in the form of 
spoon-history because we don't need to reinvent the wheel--it's a bit 
boring, actually. There is a set of experiences in that history, perhaps 
not located in any one individual or archive, that has substance and 
bearing on this list right here, why this list is, why we can send posts 
like these to this list, etc.

For example, early on it became clear to me that the most effective posts 
--in terms of readable, digestible, respondable toable--stayed within a 2- 
or at most 3-page limit. There was a discussion about post-length and it 
seemed that this was a generalizable perception (obviously with some 
variation). This may seem boring, but I'd put it to you that these kinds 
of phenomenological details (and here I'd include the thing about 
listnames) have everything to do with your positions.

Perhaps there is some confusion because this /seems/ to be a schizo list: 
is it practical, like will something specific in the form of new lists 
come from it? or is it woolly? I don't see these as distinct from one 
another necessarily, but I'd like to see the wasted spaces--seminar-##, 
or those PN lists which are dead in the water--either weeded out or put 
to some use before spoons even THINKS about metastasizing into a version 
of exactly what smothered Kent Palmer's project in the first place.

-f


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