File spoon-archives/list-proposals.archive/list-p_1995/list-p_Jun.95, message 147


Date: Wed Jun 21 06:54:05 1995
From: Tom Blancato <tblancato-AT-envirolink.org>
Subject: discoourse o' action


---This is delicious. Fido's comments have been quite a 
he*lp concerning a certain "second-order" judgment 
"mechanism" about which I have had some doubts from 
time to time...But anyways:
 
---Yes, the business of the heading is indeed 
important, as fido pointed out in a recent post. While 
this or that post may operate comfortably within the 
heading's limits, and that and another post exceeds the 
limits without conflict, a certain "big view" has to be 
adopted to grasp the meaning and operativity of the 
heading. List "proposals" will set a tenor in certain 
ways. Change the name of the list *before it's too 
late!!!*. Ok, I've been watching too many *action-
adventure* films. Basically, this list would better 
attain to *thoughtaction* :-) (it wants to, even if it 
doesn't know it) if it dealt adequately with the 
problem. Surely the discourses on the "end of 
philosophy" have by now alerted us to the fact that to 
call this a "list philosophy" list will tend to mean 
"sitting around and talking about lists" in a bad 
(unproducitve, hypicrical) way. Thus: Lists: Proposals 
and Philosophy. 
 
---What about that "now"? I suggest that it is the 
impulse of the "now", which wants unhindered movement 
(no example meant to be made of fido here, seriously, 
no, I mean, I'm really serious, honest) which is in a 
certain way inescapeable concerning the header: the 
"now!" reads the header and does what it will. The 
header is about the only really manipulable element 
*aside from authentically and historically bounded 
community as this forms*.
 
---Creative and projectional space has to have a 
metadiscourse to "handle it". This can be plural, not 
explicity defined, but it has to have this or one can 
expect the worst.
 
 
---What is "Nu?" Never heard it before, but I figure 
it's like "huh?"
 
--- "It is a site for discussion of lists and other 
structures that people would like to see added to 
spoon, and that spoon will consequently consider for 
addition when we are out of the present moratorium." 
Well, I'd like it to be more, er, "philosophical". Or 
else, let me re-enter the *proposal*: Lists proposals 
and philosophy (LPP-L, something like that.)

---
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"It is only after one ceases to reduce public affairs to the business of 
dominion that the original data in the realm of human affairs will appear, or, 
rather, reappear, in their authentic diversity."  -- Hannah Arendt

Crises of the Republic; lying in politics, civil disobedience on violence, 
thoughts on politics, and revolution. Hannah Arendt [1st ed.] New York, 
Harcourt Brace Jovanovich [1972] pages 142-143

Tom Blancato
tblancato-AT-envirolink.org
Eyes on Violence (nonviolence and human rights monitoring in Haiti)
Thoughtaction Collective (reparative justice project)
521 Main Street
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