File spoon-archives/list-proposals.archive/list-p_1995/list-p_Jun.95, message 92


Date: Sun, 18 Jun 95 20:19:54 EDT
From: ma-AT-dsd.camb.inmet.com (Malgosia Askanas)
Subject: Re:  Daydream


(BTW, not in connection with this thread, isn't there something funny
about the fact that so many people mention the D-G list?  If so many
of us are dissatisfied with the way D-G is, how come it is that way?
Can we up and change it?) 

Tow W said: 

> What would the following lists look like?
> free-association
> digression
> vacuum
> everyday-life
> memory

(I love the idea of a list called "digression"; the rule would be that
you'd never be permitted to speak on the topic.  If you did, you'd
have to pay a fine.  I would be treasurer.) 

I think "everyday life" and "memory" might be excellent list names,
provided that there is a well-thought-out list description that
focuses everything.  Maybe that's not required in the case of
"memory", but I would say definitely for "everyday life".  I quite
like that, actually.  I wonder what other people think.  

> I've been thinking of a list called list-jockey that's about the future of 
> writing, as mediated by email lists and hypertext. 

This seems to me a meadow Alan would want to frolick in.  

> "With the foundation of an international moving script 
> [poets] will renew their authority in the life of peoples, and find a role 
> awaiting them in comparison to which all the innovative aspirations of 
> rhetoric will reveal themselves as antiquated daydreams." Is this prediction 
> an antiquated daydream?

I once saw a grotesque "panel discussion" between Marvin Minsky and
Umberto Eco; somebody had the malicious idea of putting them together
in public and having them "discuss" the 21st century.  Eco, among
other things, expressed the opinion that in the 21st century things like
poetry and art will become central to people's lives.  Minsky, on the
other hand, thought that they would altogether vanish, since they were just 
blind alleys that people in the past pursued instead of pursuing computer
science, which alone is capable of solving the only two problems worthy
of human attention: how to become immortal and how to achive knowledge
without having to have any physical interactions with the outside world.  


-malgosia 

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