File spoon-archives/list-proposals.archive/list-proposals_2000/list-proposals.0001, message 37


Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:44:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Nacho Cordova <cordova-AT-wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: BB


M et al:

	I should've said the late 20th century. The technological savvy to
make info readily accessible and provide added features to enhance use,
not to mention human-data and human-technology interfaces has been
around; just doesn't seem to have made it fully to Lists.

	Before we go too far off kilter though, I'd like to elicit some
responses to the proposal as such in terms of thematic focus, sharpening
its vision, and alternative visions. Perhaps combining those with ideas
about tech formats? 

Regards,

N. Cordova
cordova-AT-wam.umd.edu


On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 ma-AT-panix.com wrote:

> > The best bet would be for somebody to
> > really tinker with a major list software and bring them into the 21st
> > century.
> 
> Well, then we have to ask: Is there such a thing as _the_ 21st century?  
> _Whose_ 21st century do we want this software brought into?  For example,
> my vision of the kind of software I would like to see in the 21st century 
> is very different than Microsoft's.  And my problem with the UltimateBB is
> that it is much more in the Microsoft bracket than in mine.
> 
> Basically, the kind of BB that is created by UltimateBB is analogous to
> a system of local Usenet groups.  So then perhaps one could learn something
> by comparing the text-based Usenet interfaces, like "trn", with the interface
> offered by UltimateBB.  The text-based interface is minimal and efficient
> and down-to-earth and fast and not "warren-like".  I think if one simply
> improved it intelligently, always going from actual interactions, by taking 
> advantage of the kinds of things that one can do with a Web page -- for
> example, being able to _simultaneously_ see a list of all the forums/topics
> that have new messages on them, AND at the same time reading the messages
> one by one -- then one would be travelling along the lines of _my_ 21st 
> century...
> 
> 
> -m
> 


   

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