Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 19:26:02 +0100 From: "Jón Proppé" <hborg-AT-centrum.is> Subject: Re: lyotard Dear Lois, This discussion has really taken off, so much so that just by glancing away from the screen for a day and a half I seem to have lost the thread. But the issues are interesting so I’ll plod on. Well, yes. Of course L does not see postmodernism as simply a name for a period and there probably is something to this idea of a cycle of belief and disbelief in the grand narratives. But there is also something to the point that Habermas made in response to L that cultural phases don’t so much replace each other as they become overlaid one on top of the other. Nothing is ever quite lost, it just gets mashed in with a lot of new stuff. The point that a particular "phase" (I’m trying for a neutral term here) is characterised by incredulity toward meta-narratives should always be taken with a grain of salt. There is no period in the history of ideas where we cannot find both dogma and dissent. And there are few ideas knocking about today that we cannot give a genealogy stretching back at least a couple of centuries or three. I don’t mean to throw wrenches in anyone’s works, but I suspect that the tendency to look for radical shifts in culture is, at least in part, a generational thing – seeking to distance oneself from all that went before. That said, it really does seem to me that something fairly profound happened in the time that people speak of as the inception of postmodernism. What it was I don’t quite know and I’m not sure it was altogether a good thing; it could be construed as the triumph of an image-driven consumer capitalism where the "distrust in meta-narratives" simply means that it no longer appears to be possible to define any stance that will allow for effective resistance against the economic and ideological structures that rule. Whether this was the cause of the cultural shift or vice versa is a chicken-and-egg question. I still haven’t recovered my copy of the Pomo Cond (never lend books to anyone!) but I’ve tried to reconstruct some idea of what L was on about. As far as I can remember L used paralogism (usually in the plural) to refer to certain paradoxical experiences that defy our explanatory capacity. In Just Gaming (which I seem to have had the sense not to lend to anyone) L uses the term twice, but both times in the standard rhetorical sense. I would be very interested in seeing more of your thoughts on the subject. Rhetorically it seems that there is a valid point in saying the paralogy lies somehow at the root of creativity. If we work within one system of thought only, such as some whopping meta-narrative, we are unlikely to come up with much that is new or truly unexpected. It is only by breaking the rules in some way -- by making an unexpected connection or crossing two lines of thought – that we can do this. Koestler actually wrote about this sort of thing and saw it as an explanation of both theoretical innovation and humour. His line of thought, if accepted, would explain why satire has always been so effective an antidote to dogma. A fascinating topic for discussion in any case. Best, Jon
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