Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:23:58 -0800
From: hugh bone <hughbone-AT-worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Anybody there??????


Tony Michael Roberts wrote:
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Well, Tony's there.

How about Matthew, Mark, Arturo & Jon?

Cheers,
Hugh
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> Could it be done without another civil war? No. My thoery of justice is
> derived from the thought of the greek sophist. They defined justice as the
> interest of the stronger. They understood Marx's point about how the
> ruling ideas are the ideas of the ruling class two thousand yrs before
> Marx. They understood Althussers' point about ideological state
> apparatuses which control behavior by manufactoring consciousness also. My
> point of view is that so elequently expressed by O'brian in Orwells' 1984:
> The purpose of government is to invest political power in exactly the way
> that a capitialist invests money. The bottom line is always an increase in
> power/money with power seen as the general form and money seen as the
> specific. The best critical thought can do is provide therapy designed to
> cure the knot of delusions which constitutes every other theory of power
> and the state. The masses will be viciously exploited until they become as
> utterly ruthless and as utterly cynical in the way they pursue their own
> desire as are their masters. The deference between a master and a slave is
> just exactly this ruthlessness, this desire which feels no need to ground
> itself or justify itself. You may consult either Nietzsche or Marvin
> Gardens ground breaking "The Wit and Wisdom of Vlad the Impaler" on this
> important point in developmental psychology. The world is and always has
> been mostly populated by slaves. pretending otherwise is sheer denial. Any
> political theory which pretends otherwise is sheer denial. Any political
> theory which does not aim at producing masters will produce slaves
> regardless of the intentions of its' author. The best justice we will ever
> achieve will come when prudence dictates that each of us act as if all the
> others where utterly ruthless and cynical in their desire and would
> respond accordingly to all of our actions and utterances. The above should
> not be taken as any denial of the importance of hypocrisy. The fact that
> power comes out of the barrel of a gun does not change the fact that some
> people feel the need to act as if this where not the case even when they
> are holding the gun or that I might find it prudent to appeal to other
> arguments even when I am holding the gun. Perhaps there is a less
> provacative way of getting my needs meet than blowing the other guys' head
> off. There usually is: This is what is meant in saying that force is the
> LAST resort of authority.
>                           Sincerely,
>                             T. Michael Roberts, Ed.D., Pope
> 
> "The ego is structured exactly like a symptom. At the heart of the
> subject, it is only a privileged symptom, the human symptom par
> excellence, the mental illiness of man."  Jacques Lacan