File spoon-archives/lyotard.archive/lyotard_2001/lyotard.0107, message 177


From: "Glen Fuller" <spacedet-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Psychs?
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:10:30 +0800


Steve,

I have a friend who has completed his psych studies, and is absolutely 
unemployed and has been so for a while! So he does nothing, except collect 
the dole. Oh, he has said that I am crazy. I think he is a crap psych. Some 
of my ex-girlfriends have gone to psychs.
It seems to me the impression I get of psychologists (as second hand 
knowledge, and as a first year unit years and years ago) is not too 
different from the impression I get from reading Foucalt.
If sanity is a quantifiable belief in reality (and its many facets, eg 
everyday life, political sphere, and cultural, etc), then maybe psychs are 
part of mechanisms of discinipline?
But also when someone does fall inbetween the gaps and visits a psych it is 
also a way for the someone to reconnect with the other facets of his/her 
life, maybe?

This is all pie in the sky stuff from me though.

Glen.

>From: steve.devos-AT-krokodile.com
>Reply-To: lyotard-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: lyotard-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Re: YAY more ethics of Other!
>Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:49:16 +0100
>
>Sissy, Glen and all
>
>Reading through the discussions on psychologists etc - what precisely do 
>you
>think psychologists do?
>
>What is a psychologist?
>
>regards
>
>sdv
>
>Glen Fuller wrote:
>
> > Hey Sissy( and I suppose Steve, and everyone else!),
> >
> > Sissy were you around when there was a discussion on the list (this 
>list)
> > about ethics and the Other, and authentic speaking positions regarding
> > notions of victimhood?
> > Steve do you remember those posts regarding the ethics of the Other that
> > precipitated discussion about Badiou, I think I was engaging Hugh?
> >
> > Yep,
> > Glen.
> >
> > PS The above is in regards to the below, specifically the line about 
>being
> > in a privileged position.
> >
> > >Unfortunately in the hands of professional psychologists who are still
> > >for the large part dismissive of their own positions of power as 
>holding
> > >any significance or importance to examine, the continuance of notions
> > >of expertise and the development of paralogy as a technique to
> > >practice upon consumers without their collaboration on it's 
>development,
> > >and all of its demonstrations point to and demonstrate it's failing at
> > >bringing possibilities of just politics.  I also have to wonder what
> > >someone who by their own position is not a person of color, is not
> > >a glbt, is not a consumer, is not uneducated can bring to the 
>understanding
> > >of just politics when what is just is determined solely by such a 
>position.
> > >What would someone really KNOW about just politics when they aren't
> > >effected by unjust politics by their very privileged position.
> > >
> > >
> > >Lois Shawver wrote:
> > >On another note, to all of you, and especially you, Eric, but you, too,
> > >
> > > >   In my reading "paralogy" remains in a new form in his later 
>writing,
> > >not
> > > >
> > > > often, but here and there, and it continues to be a spark of hope 
>and
> > > > even enchantment (arguably an enlightenment enchantment) with the
> > > > possibilities for a just politics.
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes,
> > > > ..Lois Shawver
> > >
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