Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 16:56:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [Fwd: Roundtable on the state and globalisation: John I agree that rationality as such is in itself important and it is true that I would also have greator allegiance to some social/political groups and issues than I have to others. The issue for me, is not whether we should support all movements and groups without question but rather how these movements and groups have come into existence and are impacting and are affected by the pressures of the post-modern economic system. I realise that Resistance to social change is not in itself a 'good thing', but rationality and ones own social and political positions should enable one to recognise which positions are part of a positive and progressive change and those that are reactionary responses to the same events. Initially let's discard the facist and neo-fascist groups who object to social and political change on the basis of supporting current institutions whether they are political, social or religious institutions. The racist (anti-zionist) or anti-reptile groups and other such conspiricy theorists, who the media in all its current forms find so interesting are deeply fascist in tendency. But rather than re-analyse the reactionary lunatics of the american far-right (sorry guys). I'd rather focus on the notion of the 'local', the 'community', following Negri and Hardt I'd suggest that todays celebrations of the local and the community can easily fall into the reactionary and the fascistic, for example when they oppose circulations of populations (not just human) and mixtures and as a consequence reinforce the nation, ethnicity, race, people, sexism, religion and so on. But the local and community does not necessarily have to be defined by isolation and notions of false purity. If we break down the barriers that surround the concepts we can seperate it from these reactionary concepts and direct it towards the universal. It is this which opens the local out towards the global and allows the "multitude to pass from place to place". It is this nomadic and migratory drift which is represented by the increasing movement of human populations towards the west... (The situationist cry "act local think global..." which has echoed down through left politics since the 60s is another case in point.). The current responses of the British Govenment to the refugees and migrants are part of a continuing attempt to maintain and reproduce the British Nation state - the dream of a common species causes nothing but terror and sleepless nights for such people... The heros of the post-colonial third world are the emigrants and migrants who are part of the movement of population that are destroying all the old boundaries and negating all previous understandings of the state. The leaving behind of the local communities, the rejection of local customs and boundaries are important and positive forces. The reactionary need to belong to the local, the inoperative communities which feed on death, the deliberate construction of poverty are elements that are part of the ongoing processes of the post-modern economic system, globalisation requires the construction of isolated national and regional territories, whithin which populations are subordinated in regimes of great poverty, from Rwanda to Kosova, Montenegro and Oldham the story remains the same. As an individual you can stay and suffer or leave by rail... when the Kosovans kicked out the 100,000 Gypsies along with all the Serbs, what else could they do? They joined 'the wretched of the earth', who are probably the most powerful creative (telelogically and ontologically) group on the planet. They left - bringing the nomadic and migratory changes with them an apt representation of the possibility for change and liberation. Is the act of migrating, going nomadic, some willingly, some forced, considerable as an act of resistance - it is related because it is a response to the post-modern political and economic system. It is not necessary to support, for example, the anti-gm movements, to recognise that there are some significant issues relating to the use of such technologies/crops in africa and india thatb are different from there use in Europe and the USA. The primary economic issue remains that they are part of the ongoing globalisation process, the social issue is related to whether it improves the human standard of living and at what cost? If the peasent farmer ends up further in debt to Monsanto, the local state and other social, economic and scientific institutions then the cost may well have been to high. The african scientist who was interviewed in the New Scientist recently wanted to use GM crops in the interests of improving the standard of living of the peasent farmer but did not explain how the short term gains were going to be turned into long term improvements. Finally I would emphasise that each and every militant within each and every group must decide for themselves what constitutes an 'indiscriminate resistance' and whether they should carry out a given political action or not. It is not for me to judge whether the asian youth in oldham, in taking the fight against the neo-fascists of the bnp and its white followers onto the streets is playing into the hands of the media and the racist fellow travellers or not, they have to do that themselves. regards sdv John Croft wrote: > Steve, > > I appreciate your point that resistance *per se* is perhaps more important > than differences between various protesting groups. However, as one who has > some residual allegiance to "rational thought", I feel, personally, a very > strong objection to certain groups while supporting many others. We seem to > differ on "specism", but you seem to acknowledge that important differences > do exist so I won't deal specifically with that just now. My question is, do > you regard resistance *as such* as more important than the drawing of > distinctions between, for example, views such as extreme anti-GM stances > which, if successful, could cause net harm to some populations and to the > environment, and other more pressing issues such as climate change. (You may > well disagree with me on these issues, but my point is about resistance as > such versus reasoned/discriminate resistance.) For example, should those of > us engaged in the resistance of global capitalism *not* raise an objection > if others object to the same thing on the grounds that the world is run by a > shadowy Zionist elite? Or lizards? Do you think that the connection "with a > larger public" that you speak of is expedited or jeopardised by the image of > an indiscriminate resistance? > > john
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