Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 18:25:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Lyotard and Empire steve: Let me openly acknowledge one handicap here. I can't read French. Therefore, I am limited to those works of Lyotard that have been translated into English. Unfortunately, much of Lyotard's writings from the eary seventies is simply unavailable. There was a text entitled "Driftworks", but it has been out of print for years and I can't find reasonably priced copies at the used book stores. I keep waiting like Godot for Discours/Figure to be translated, but to no avail. I would love to read Lyotard's essay on Adorno, but don't know where to look for it. I also would like to see 'Energumen Capitalism', but haven't. Are these things more widely available in the UK? just ranting, eric > > Eric and co, > > To what extent can elements of Lyotards discussion of Anti-Oedipus in his > reveiw essay 'Energumen Capitalism' (EC) be rethought as a reading of > 'Empire'. In more than one sense AO is one of the texts that the Empire work > is founded on. I'd even go as far as to suggest that in some ways Empire is > like a further volume of D&G's Capitalism and Schzophrenia opus... However > Lyotard's reading of the AO is that the text "subverts most profoundly what > it does not criticise: Marxism..." But what is engaged in within the EC is > to point out what it is that is extracted from Marxism and buried is no > less important that what is burnt at the stake from Freudian psychoanalysis > - actually the latter is less successful than the former because the model > of the human subject that AO defines is plainly unworkable but never mind. > What remains of marxism after the AO and EO is more or less what remains in > Empire... > > What remains of capitalism is one step prior to the definition postmodern > capitalism we live in today - fluidity, fluxes and flows. > > "Marxism says: there is a frontier, a limit past which the organisation of > flows called capital (capitalist relations of production) comes apart, and > the corrospondences between money and commodities, capital and labor force, > as well as other paramters, go haywire. And it is the very growth of > production capacities in modern capitalism which reaching this limit, will > cause the whole system of production and circulation to wobble. Furthermore > this growth will not fail to allow the passage of even more energy flows, > and to unleash and disperse their 'regulation' system within capital, that > is within their relations of production... All marxist politics is built > thereon, seeking in this frontier, this limit, this chain, a cornerstone > seeking to crumble, or a weak link, or ne considered so pertinent as to > bring down the whole structure, the strongest link...All this is a politics > of law and negativity..." Lyotard (1972) Energumen Capitalism. > > (Lyotard goes on to criticise the and examine what '...destroys bourgious > society...' His critique of marxism is founded on his conflation on the > despotic failings of the 1917 revolution, the refusal of the strategy of the > party...) > > "What fascinates Marx is quite recognisable in the configuration of Capital > proposed by D & G the capitalist perversion, the subversion of codes, > religions, decency, trades, education, cookery, speech, gender, the > levelling of all 'established' differences into the one and only difference: > being worth..., exchangeable for.... Indifferent difference. Mors > Immortalis, in his words..." These words which were written by Lyotard and > AO are also one of the finest statings of why all the people discussed above > remain important. > > Actually I've been wrong about Lyotard on Marx - I've been misreading him, > which the past few days has corrected, it is not marx and the theory he is > writing against but the despotic failings of 1917 - the question becomes how > do you do something about it... How to completely eradicate the negativity > and guilt which has haunted us since the utopian dreams turned into > nightmares... (sorry Jean-Francios) > > I agree in other words that Empire is so close to the work of the > philosophers of desire - D&G below but also Lyotard from the same period... > It's easy to forget the passion and anger that drips from the 1970s texts of > lyotard. > > regards > > sdv > > Mary Murphy&Salstrand wrote: > > > Steve > > > > No problem if you are over the top. Keep in mind, my own agenda is the > > following. Keep open a different reception of Lyotard from the cliches > > found in the lit-crit anthologies. From my POV, Lyotard never lapses > > into nostalgia, and therefore, it isn't fair to call him a pessimist. > > IMHO he always pushed for resistance, refusal and passive rebellion even > > when there seemed no other way out. The keynote in late LyoTARD is > > ambiguity, not despair. > > > > The question remains, how does Empire complexify Lyotard's own > > conception of complexity, as this is found in his later works. N&H don't > > seem to be denying the condition as much as saying it allows for > > certain unforeseen transformations. Perhaps. > > > > You asked me for my take on multitudes. I see it as deriving both from > > Deleuze and Guattari and Spinoza. > > > > Here is some background from 1,000 plateaus - as you will see, it is > > central to the main conceptions of this book! > > > > Rhizomatics=Schizoanalysis=Stratoanalysis=Pragmatics=Micropolitics. > > These words are concepts, but concepts are lines, which is to say, > > number systems attached to a particular dimension of the multiplicities > > (strata, molecular chains, lines of flight or rupture, circles of > > convergence, etc.) > > > > All we know are assemblages. And the only assemblages are machinic > > assemblages of desire and collective assemblages of enunciation... > > An assemblage, in its multiplicity, necessarily acts on semiotic flows, > > material flows and social flows simultaneously. > > > > A body without organs is not an empty body stripped of organs, but a > > body upon which that which serves as organs (wolves, wolf eyes, wolf > > jaw?) is distributed according to crowd phenomena, in Brownian motion, > > in the form of molecular multiciplicities. The desert is populous. > > > > People say, After all, schizophrenics have a mother and a father, don't > > they? Sorry, no none as such. They only have a desert with tribes > > inhabiting it, a full body clinging with multiplicities. > > > > This brings us to the second factor, the nature of these multiplicities > > and their elements, RHIZOME. > > > > Lines of flight or deterritorialization, becoming wolf, becoming > > inhuman, deterritorialized intensities: that is what multiplicity is. > > > > Thus we find in the work of the mathematician and physicist Riemann a > > distinction between discreet multiplicities and continuous > > multiplicities. > > > > We are doing approximately the same thing when we distinguish between > > arborescent multiplicities and rhizomatic multiplicities. Between > > macro- and micromultiplicities. > > > > The elements of this second kind of multiplicity are particles: their > > relations are distances, their movements are Brownian: the quantities > > are intensities, difference in intensity. > > > > Among the characteristics of a pack are small or restricted numbers, > > dispersion, noncomposable variable distances, qualitative metamorphoses, > > inequalities as remainders or crossings, impossibility of a fixed > > totalization or hierarchization, a Brownian variability in direction, > > lines of deterritorialization, and projection of particles. > > > > In a pack each member is alone even in the company of others...each > > takes care of himself at the same time as participating in the band...he > > may be in the center, and then immediately afterwards, at the edge > > again; at the edge and then back in the center. > > > > Now here is how Negri sees multiplicity is Spinoza: > > > > This new quality of the subject, that is, opens up to the sense of the > > multiplicity of subjects and to the constructive power that emanates > > from their dignity, understood as totality. > > > > Spinoza republican thought contains three elements: > > > > 1. A conception of the State that radically denies its transcendence - > > that is, a demystification of politics; > > 2. A determination of Power (potestas) as a function subordinated to the > > social power (potentia) of the multitudo and, therefore, > > constitutionally organized; > > 3. A conception of constitution, in other words, of constitutional > > organization, which necessarily starts from the antagonism of subjects. > > > > In Empire, N&H are simply extrapolating from these previous conceptions. > > > > eric
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