Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:53:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Mystify me! Matthew wrote: Only fundamentalists take that story literally and blame women for shame and evil because God said it was their fault............ Pick your devil term. I like fundamentalist for mine. What I mean is that I am willing to be misrepresent fundamentalists in order to achieve less misrepresentation of religous people in general. Matthew: As I see it, our main disagreements are over the use of the term mystification and the fact that you want to contain the virus within fundamentalism and not see it spread to infect the rest of religion as a whole. Consider this, however. Unless you are operating with a different definition of fundamentalism that the one currently in use, I don't think you would describe the institution of the Catholic Church as fundamentalist. I think you would agree it would be fairer to describe it as a broad-based institution which contains some who may be described as fundamentalist and others who may be described as liberal and progressive. Nonetheless, I think you would agree that, as an institution, the church has pursued policies that are anti-feminist on a vast array of issues that include ordination, divorce, contraception, abortion and ecclesiastical representation. I don't really think you can get away with merely blaming this on a bunch of lone gunmen fundamentalists. The policy of the church is far too pervasive and structural for that. By coincidence, I received my copy of the New York Review of Books yesterday and there was an article in it by Frederick Crews entitled "Saving Us from Darwin." In this article he discusses the plight of creationism and the extent to which they have been forced to retreat in their argument because of the power of what Daniel C. Dennett has termed "Darwin's Dangerous Idea." Here is a quote from the article: "the theory's success at every later stage has tipped the explanatory balance towards some naturalistic account of life's beginning. So, too, competitive pressures now form a more plausible framework than divine action for guessing how the human brain could have acquired consciousness and facilitated cultural productions, not excepting religion itself. It is this march toward successfully explaining the higher by the lower that renders Darwinian science a threat to theological dogma of all but the blandest kind." If I use the term mystification to describe the "religions of the book" it is not because I want to invoke a devil term, but because I see them as currently undergoing a crisis of legitimation. The authority of scripture comes supposedly from God, but more and more the foundation for the existence of such a God has been shown to be illusory within the current scientific framework that provides the basis for all of our global technology. How do church leaders maintain their authority in the face of such unmasking and how do they react to the growing change in demographics it has caused? (All of which, I might add, has nothing to do with my own subjective opinion or a vague penchant for devil terms.) As Negri and Hardt have indicated, such Fundamentalism is not traditional at all, but a contemporary reaction and refusal of the contemporary historical passage to Empire. Here is what they say about Islam: "they emphasize ijihad, original thought. Contemporary Islam radicalisms are indeed primarily based on "original thought" and the invention of original values and practices, which perhaps echo those of other periods of revivalism or fundamentalism but are really directed in reaction to the present social order. In both case, then, the fundamentalist "return to tradition" is really a new invention." In a similar vein, Jerry Falwell appeared on the 700 club and blamed 9/11 on the pagans, abortionists, feminists, homosexuals, the American Civil Liberties and the People for the American Way. As this great man of God put it: "All of them who have tried to secularize America, I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'" And before you have a knee jerk response to this and exclaim that Jerry Falwell is merely a fundamentalist, I want you to pause and reflect for a moment. Who are George W. Bush, John Ashcroft and other highly placed officials in the current United States administration, if not fundamentalists? Is your conceptual framework really adequate for explaining what is going on, after the incident of 9/11? What role does religion really play within the current crisis anyway? Still adapting to changes in my environment, eric
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