File spoon-archives/lyotard.archive/lyotard_2001/lyotard.0111, message 10

Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 04:53:43 +1000
Subject: Re: Advance Australia Fair


Some re-discovered notes/quotes which seem appropriate for the situation
 since 9/11..


"Even if all his life a fool associates with a wise man he
 will not understand the truth, even as a spoon does
not understand the flavor of the soup."

"The opinion of 10,000 men is of
no value if none of them know anything about the subject."

"In politics, as on the sickbed, people toss from one side to the
other, thinking they will be more comfortable."

"The American political system is essentially a
contract between the Republican and Democratic parties, enforced
by federal and state two-party laws, all designed to guarantee
the survival of both no matter how many people despise or ignore

"If God had wanted us to vote in the last election, he'd have
given us better candidates."

"How to get people to vote against their interests and to really
think against their interests is very clever.  It's the cleverest
ruling class that I have ever come across in history.  It's been
200 years at it.  It's superb."

"Parliamentary democracy is the fig leaf of bourgeois

"If voting could change the system, it would be against the law."

"The Family: that noble institution responsible for 70 percent of
all murders, over 80 percent of incidents of child abuse, and a
full 100 percent of all cases of incest."

"I find it incomprehensible why a country as rich as the U.S. can allow a
whole generation of young people in the inner city to slide into despair in
such a degree that they go out in the streets and burn down and loot their
own neighborhoods."

"The agony and moral anguish that ought to accompany an act of
mass killing -- yes, even in a war -- seemed wholly absent from
American culture."

"The nation, like the church, has its visible symbols and insignia,
its parchments engrossed with the revealed word, its dogmas, hymns,
liturgy, holy day celebrations, its early Fathers, prophets and
martyrs, its priesthood and its lay sodality, its myths of sacred
genesis and apocalyptic crises, its world-saving mission and its
missionaries. ... Hans Kohn chose to treat fascism as an
'exaggerated nationalism' rather than as a unique
and aberrant phenomenon."

"To me, it seems a dreadful indignity to have a soul controlled
by geography."

"Reaganomics: a tax policy based on a notion of incentives
which says that the rich aren't working because they have too
little money, while the poor aren't working because they get too

"We are told that a particular economy is doing very well,
"growing", "heated up", "booming", "the Chilean miracle", the
"Korean miracle" ... when all this really means usually, if it
means anything, is that the rich are growing richer."

"The New Deal: Its main ideological purpose was to prevent the
rising discontent of the citizens leading them to organize to
demand control of industry and not merely better wages.
Government regulation of industry was one method to dampen this
discontent.  The New Deal also encouraged the most moderate part
of the union movement, the part concerned solely with wages and
working conditions."

"When the rich give charity to the poor, it's well publicized.
But the charity of the poor to the rich is anonymous.  The rich
give the poor a little food, drink, shelter, clothes.  The poor
have given the rich palaces and yachts, almost infinite freedom
to indulge their doubtful taste for display."

"If the world operates as one big market, every employee will
compete with every person anywhere in the world who is capable of
doing the same job.  There are lots of them and many of them are

"The American oligarchy increasingly has less in common with the
American people than it does with the equivalent oligarchies in
Germany or Mexico or Japan."

In World War I hundreds of thousands of previously rational
animals lined up facing one another and doggedly shot one another
to pieces, day after day, year after year.  And no one could
confidently or clearly say why it was happening or what it was
all about.And it might still be going on if not for the
Russian Revolution.  Unlike World War II, the First World War did
not end because of any kind of invasion of Germany.  It came to an
end because the Bolsheviks brought the capitalist leaders who were
fighting each other to their senses.  They realized that if they
didn't stop fighting each other and work together against the new
Bolshevik menace, their own people might rise up against them."

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint.
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist."

A "terrorist" -- the Nazi's term for WW II resistance
fighters -- fights for what he believes in; a soldier fights for
what someone else believes in -- in this case the wealthy
coercing the poor to kill the poor to keep the wealthy in power.
So it always was."



> Glen
> On the broadcast media - it was stated yesterday that Bin Laden has
> threatened to fly a passenger plane into the Sellafield nuclear
> facility... the society of the spectacle dissolves into paranoia with
> such ease...
> regard
> steve
> Fuller wrote:
> >Excellent.
> >
> >I just heard on the news that the Taliban have extended the Jihad to
> >Australia, because Australia committed military forces...
> >
> >Glen.
> >
> >


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