Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:04:29 +0800


Steve,

> Self as Other - psychoanlytically - perhaps for within psychoanalysis
> all subjects are split - otherwise how?

I am basing that (rather provocative statement!!woohoo!) on Badiou's
disinterested-interest, which is possibly a more complex notion than it
seems.
Where if all truths are known only subjectively (even though they are
asocial) then what you encounter as an Other (radical difference) is
some-one that 'knows' of some 'truth' that you do not. (Here I am assuming
that all humans follow a primary axiom of "I will do what is the most
right", even if they don't know it, hmm.) And is behaving in such a manner,
with a level of certitude, that is sufficient to allow you dis-place your
self (and enter a truth-becoming process).
But the truth may only be opinion dolled up (simulacrum and terror) but it
operates, for the some-one, as a truth. How can you know that the 'truth'
(the axiom which is guiding this human being, which deciphering is
problematic, but I don't think impossible) is a truth? Well it is asocial,
no?
Why I don't think this 'deciphering' is impossible is because the process
needs to be done your side of the fence too, so to speak, and here is where
the disinterested-interest is found.
And it's not the beliefs or opinions that you actually find in the Other,
which leads to the truth-becoming-process (Other your Self), but the Other's
process-of-truth-becoming that you witness, that which creates new
knowledges. Or, perhaps, a 12 round fight between Immortals.

Glen.