Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 15:52:58 +1100
From: hbone <hbone-AT-optonline.net>
Subject: Re: Fw: Films by Guy Debord


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  From: steve.devos 
  To: lyotard-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 6:25 AM
  Subject: Re: Fw: Films by Guy Debord


  Steve,

  >With regard to your negative responses to 'Empire' (actually Hugh have you ever responded >positively to a left wing text?) Given the number of  texts in the world - 1 acceptable and ?>workable idea in 490 pages is quite a a good ratio.  Compared to some authors i could mention >it is an extraordinarily good ratio.

  **I respond to "Workers of the world unite."  Don't know if that is a text or not.

  You illustrate the reason I read very few texts of left or right.

  >A better method of supplying Healthcare, schooling and so on - free at the point of need has >never been found than the welfare state systems. I'd direct your attention  towards the European >healthcare and education systems which whilst they have been infected by the neo-liberal ?>economics of recent decades have remained remarkably true to there historical roots. 

  Good news for you folks.  I hope they are better than the U.S. mess.

  > To suggest that the welfare state systems exist to support 'corporate billionaires' is simply 
  > wrong - they are and remain sites of struggle and will remain so.

  A handful of billionaires in the U.K, Germany, France and Italy, has enough funds to provide 
  7 million workers with a year's wage.  They may be strong on liberte and fraternite, but seem to come up short on egalite.  Seems they get most of the welfare, whether or not they ever spend Euros to insure democratic legislation that will make them wealthier.
  ..
  Best,
  Hugh



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----- Original Message -----

From: steve.devos

To: lyotard-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu

Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 6:25 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: Films by Guy Debord

Steve,

>With regard to your negative responses to 'Empire' (actually Hugh have you ever responded >positively to a left wing text?) Given the number of  texts in the world - 1 acceptable and ?>workable idea in 490 pages is quite a a good ratio.  Compared to some authors i could mention >it is an extraordinarily good ratio.

 

**I respond to "Workers of the world unite."  Don't know if that is a text or not.

 

You illustrate the reason I read very few texts of left or right.

 

>A better method of supplying Healthcare, schooling and so on - free at the point of need has >never been found than the welfare state systems. I'd direct your attention  towards the European >healthcare and education systems which whilst they have been infected by the neo-liberal ?>economics of recent decades have remained remarkably true to there historical roots.

 

Good news for you folks.  I hope they are better than the U.S. mess.

 

> To suggest that the welfare state systems exist to support 'corporate billionaires' is simply

> wrong - they are and remain sites of struggle and will remain so.

 

A handful of billionaires in the U.K, Germany, France and Italy, has enough funds to provide

7 million workers with a year's wage.  They may be strong on liberte and fraternite, but seem to come up short on egalite.  Seems they get most of the welfare, whether or not they ever spend Euros to insure democratic legislation that will make them wealthier.

..
Best,

Hugh