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Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:01:07 +1100
From: hbone <hbone-AT-optonline.net>
Subject: Re: Wildcard: Skin and Constitution


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Rod/All,

Not such a wildcard - to me.  Skin, infancy, bio-origin are subjects for further exploration.
DNA and Information science may be the most important turn since Darwin.  Where science goes, philosophy follows.

Below is a Lyotard quote that Eric posted weeks ago.  One can take the view that humans are cognizing machines who, like the most recent computers, can emit only the 
words, sounds, images empowered by their memories, i.e. accumulated experience.
 
Unlike grazing animals who can walk, run, pick up food on their day of birth, humans are helpless.  
 
Skin, boundaries, the acts of learning to hear, see, speak, touch, taste, and smell, the bases of mind and meaning, precede adult ideas and intuition.  Much to be learned and understood by scientists and by philosophers of the "is it happening".
 
JFL quote:
 
"It is not "I" who is born, who is given birth to. "I" will be born
afterwards, with language, precisely upon leaving infancy.  My affairs
will have been handled and decided before I can answer for them - and
once and for all: this infancy, this body, this unconscious remaining
there my entire life.  When the law comes to me, with the ego and
language, it is too late,  Things will have already taken a turn. And
the turn of the law will not manage to efface the first turn, this first
touch.  Aesthetics has to do with this first touch: the one who touched
me when I was not there."
 
regards,
Hugh
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  Rod wrote:

   
  One of the things that JFL is struggling with in his late work is: can we remember constitution, our own constitution? No, he says. And also, that this constitution is repetitive, almost like the old theological concept of perpetual creation. It happens before what is knowable only because it institutes the conditions of the knowable. To speak in the language of The Differend, it happens somewhere between the pharse and the "is it happening?" of the phrase. In "The Affect Phrase" he calls it a suspension of linkages. In Toward the Postmodern, it goes by such names as "disorder" (via Valery), "prescription" (via Kafka), etc. It is damn near impossible to write about, since it is something we do not think. It happens before thinking. 
   


   
   

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Rod/All,
 
Not such a wildcard - to me.  Skin, infancy, bio-origin are subjects for further exploration.
DNA and Information science may be the most important turn since Darwin.  Where science goes, philosophy follows.
 
Below is a Lyotard quote that Eric posted weeks ago.  One can take the view that humans are cognizing machines who, like the most recent computers, can emit only the
words, sounds, images empowered by their memories, i.e. accumulated experience.
 
Unlike grazing animals who can walk, run, pick up food on their day of birth, humans are helpless. 
 
Skin, boundaries, the acts of learning to hear, see, speak, touch, taste, and smell, the bases of mind and meaning, precede adult ideas and intuition.  Much to be learned and understood by scientists and by philosophers of the "is it happening".
 
JFL quote:
 
"It is not "I" who is born, who is given birth to. "I" will be born
afterwards, with language, precisely upon leaving infancy.  My affairs
will have been handled and decided before I can answer for them - and
once and for all: this infancy, this body, this unconscious remaining
there my entire life.  When the law comes to me, with the ego and
language, it is too late,  Things will have already taken a turn. And
the turn of the law will not manage to efface the first turn, this first
touch.  Aesthetics has to do with this first touch: the one who touched
me when I was not there."
 
regards,
Hugh
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rod wrote:
 
 
One of the things that JFL is struggling with in his late work is: can we remember constitution, our own constitution? No, he says. And also, that this constitution is repetitive, almost like the old theological concept of perpetual creation. It happens before what is knowable only because it institutes the conditions of the knowable. To speak in the language of The Differend, it happens somewhere between the pharse and the "is it happening?" of the phrase. In "The Affect Phrase" he calls it a suspension of linkages. In Toward the Postmodern, it goes by such names as "disorder" (via Valery), "prescription" (via Kafka), etc. It is damn near impossible to write about, since it is something we do not think. It happens before thinking.
 
 
 
 
 
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