Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:21:37 +1100
From: hbone <hbone-AT-optonline.net>
Subject: Re: The Referent, the referent...


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  Steve wrote:

  Hugh,

  I was especially interested in trying to open out the other ground of the chapter - that Mark referenced with his 'Name' mail - can any 'referent' be stable?

  regards
  steve
  (what always fascinated about linguistics and semiotics was always the relationship between the object/event and the sign... )

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  It will take time to flesh out and clarify "referent" and "stable".

  My quick response is that God has been, and is, the ultimate referent for believers,
  and history, or science, or both,  including emergence, self-creation, the "uncertainty principle", etc., etc. are God-substitutes for  non-believers.  Are either believers or non-believers stable referents?  I wonder.

  regards,
  Hugh






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Steve wrote:

 

Hugh,

I was especially interested in trying to open out the other ground of the chapter - that Mark referenced with his 'Name' mail - can any 'referent' be stable?

regards
steve
(what always fascinated about linguistics and semiotics was always the relationship between the object/event and the sign... )

 

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It will take time to flesh out and clarify "referent" and "stable".

 

My quick response is that God has been, and is, the ultimate referent for believers,

and history, or science, or both, including emergence, self-creation, the "uncertainty principle", etc., etc. are God-substitutes for  non-believers.  Are either believers or non-believers stable referents?  I wonder.

 

regards,

Hugh