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From: "Glen Fuller" <glenfuller-AT-iinet.net.au>
Subject: Badiou. Lyotard <-> D&G
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 20:30:27 +0800

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lacanian ink 19/The Political as a ProcedureHey steve, I like that snippet. I have been reading a lot of D&G for my thesis and the line "Collective" is not a numerical concept here. echoes D&G's concept of 'minor/major' in A Thousand Plateaus.

I can't remember if I had mentioned it earlier, but I read a book "Perform - Or Else" by Jon McKenzie. Some on the list might find it interesting as it is heavily influenced by Lyotard. Specifically this quote from TPC:

"The decesion makers, however, attempt to manage these clouds of sociality according to input/output matrices, following a logic which implies that their matrices are commensurable and that the whole is determinable. They allocate out lives for the growth of power. In matters of social justice and of scientific truth alike, the legitimation of that power is bsaed on its optimizing the systme's performance - efficiency."

coincides with McKenzie's:

"Performance will be to the twentieth and twenty-first centuries what discipline was to the eighteenth and nineteenth, that is, an onto-historical formation of power and knowledge."

I wonder if anyone else has thought of the connections between D&G and Lyotard?

Glen.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: steve.devos
  To: lyotard-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
  Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 6:54 AM
  Subject: Alain Badiou - lacanian ink 19/The Political as a Procedure

  http://lacan.com/frameXIX4.htm

  fya.

  steve

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lacanian ink 19/The Political as a Procedure

Hey steve, I like that snippet. I have been reading a lot of D&G for my thesis and the line "Collective" is not a numerical concept here. echoes D&G's concept of 'minor/major' in A Thousand Plateaus.

I can't remember if I had mentioned it earlier, but I read a book "Perform - Or Else" by Jon McKenzie. Some on the list might find it interesting as it is heavily influenced by Lyotard. Specifically this quote from TPC:

"The decesion makers, however, attempt to manage these clouds of sociality according to input/output matrices, following a logic which implies that their matrices are commensurable and that the whole is determinable. They allocate out lives for the growth of power. In matters of social justice and of scientific truth alike, the legitimation of that power is bsaed on its optimizing the systme's performance - efficiency."

coincides with McKenzie's:

"Performance will be to the twentieth and twenty-first centuries what discipline was to the eighteenth and nineteenth, that is, an onto-historical formation of power and knowledge."

I wonder if anyone else has thought of the connections between D&G and Lyotard?

Glen.

----- Original Message -----

From: steve.devos

To: lyotard-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu

Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 6:54 AM

Subject: Alain Badiou - lacanian ink 19/The Political as a Procedure

http://lacan.com/frameXIX4.htm

fya.

steve