From: "Glen Fuller" <glenfuller-AT-iinet.net.au>
Subject: re: question
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:21:20 +0800


Righty-o.

Steve, I hope you get this by way of the Lyotard list!!!

Glen.



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> G'day Steve,
>
> I hope this works!! I tried emailing this little message earlier but I got
a
> mail-error, but then I noticed you had emailed again to the lyotard list
so
> I thought I would try again.
>
> Oh, and there have been recent arrests and protests at the Pine-Gap joint
> US-Aus military facility in the Northern Territory, like two days ago.
There
> still have not been any mass protests like the kind in Europe. The
Democrat
> Party (the most left, besides the Greens of course) is running a candidate
> in a by-election seat they know they can not win, but they said they are
> running a candidate to open up a public debate on the issue of "Australia
> going to war by default".
>
> Glen.
>
> > Sorry Steve for the delay of my reply, I have been off in self-imposed
> exile
> > finishing off my dissertation...
> >
> > There has not been any mass deomnstrations of the magnitude as there has
> > been in the UK and Europe. One very interesting development was a letter
> > signed by 7 ex-prime ministers that basically said Australia should not
> > support any US led initiative against Iraq without a direct resolution
by
> > the UN.
> >
> > The current prime minister, John Howard, would take very little notice
of
> > this (his actions over the last term and a half show this), but for the
> > leader of the left-leaning Labour opposition party, Simon Crean, this
has
> > been considerately problematic as his political 'mentor' the ex-PM, Bob
> > Hawke (who, after the Aussies won the Americas cup in the late 80s,
> > (in)famously said, "Everyone should have the day off tomorrow, you would
> be
> >  a bum to expect your workers to turn up."!!), is a signatory. There are
> some
> > hard line left-wingers in the Labour party (including Carmen Lawrence
who
> > has a PhD in Philosophy), and with this letter Crean has almost been
> forced
> > to follow the letters wait-for-the-UN initiative.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Glen.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "steve.devos" <steve.devos-AT-krokodile.com>
> > To: <glenfuller-AT-iinet.net.au>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:15 AM
> > Subject: question
> >
> >
> > > Glen
> > >
> > > have their been any stop-the-war or anti-war demonstrations,
> > > activitieuis in ASustralia?
> > >
> > > reagdrs
> > >
> > > steve
> > >
> > >
> >
> >