Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 14:40:47 +1000
From: hbone <hbone-AT-optonline.net>
Subject: Re: Bad Subjects Ethics An Essay on the Understanding of Evil


Glen/All,

I hadn't read the essay, but it was easy to read.

The key phrase seemed to be "collective liberation", meaning, if I read
correctly,
something like an expression of U.S. politicians, "to change the hearts and
minds".

I searched for the phrase:  "liberation collectif" and got approximately
4800 hits.
The ones I read were in French.

Searching in English produced approximately 183000 hits, a lot of material
for those who are interested.

Historically, changing hearts and minds has been a task for religion, not
philosophy, or science. Change the hearts and minds and the bodies will
liberate themselves.

 Philosophers and scientists are sometimes able to change each other's minds
but generally abstain from a politics, force, or terror.

Believers in religion, and believers in secular ideologies, such as
fascists, communists and capitalists, are less restrained, and become
political   The Holy Roman Empire (the experts say was not Holy, nor Roman,
nor an Empire) dominated much of the civilized world.

Muslims controlled the civilized world from Spain to Mecca in the Middle
Ages.

Today, the Vatican is Global, and though technically, not an Empire, it
reaps funds from global populations of believers, and would likely resist
collective liberation of these people from their beliefs.

best regards,
Hugh

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----- Original Message ---
From: "Glen Fuller" <glenfuller-AT-iinet.net.au>
To: <lyotard-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: Bad Subjects Ethics An Essay on the Understanding of Evil


> Here ia an essay from BS, some of you have probably read before.
>
> http://eserver.org/bs/reviews/2002-9-23-8.13AM.html
>
> Glen.
>
>