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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:49:59 +1000
Subject: Re: French Fries


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In the long term, world trade and banking interests (dominated by the U.S.) may be a greater threat to national sovereignty than the E.U.  

Investments of France and Russia motivate their desire for peace in Iraq.  China,
without such investments, may suffer loss of trade due to months of war and  occupation by the U.S. and U.K.

The WTO, the IMF, the World Bank and other agencies are by definition and practice 
international in scope.  They bypass national governments, make huge loans to developing countries, and when those economies collapse, foreign interests buy assets at bargain basement prices - globalization in action.

Only the U.S. has the economic and military power to determine policy and action of international agencies.

Hugh

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> The long term political consensus is that it is a short term issue. That is
> caused by a misunderstanding of precisely what countries like Poland and
> Romania are signing upto on joining the EC. 
> 
> Perhaps they have not realised that they are signing away their national
> soveriegnty - and imagine that a socio-political bias towards the USA (as a
> bastion of freedom and the economic savior)is acceptable within Europe. The
> pro-USA bias which is common in eastern-europe is not sustainable -
> especially when I'm paying for it....
> 
> regards
> steve
> 
> 
> 
> when they effectivley sign over there 
> 
> > The split among Europeans over support of the US is not doing any  harm
> > to US interest in weakening the counterbalance of the European  union. 
> > New alliance patterns are emerging.
> > Judy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>And the paranoid rumours from Paris are that the reason the USA is  so
> >>keen on european expansion is to prevent the EC becoming a 
> >>greator challenge to the US hegemony...
> >>
> >>regards
> >>s
> >>
> >>David wrote:
> >>
> >>>All,
> >>>In case you hadn't already heard, many restaurants around the 
> >>>country have renamed french fries "freedom fries."  As funny as it  is
> >>>sad and stupid, this isn't where the nationalistic stupidity and 
> >>>black & white, us vs. them mentality (and I'm using the word 
> >>>"mentality" liberally here) ends.  Many restaurants are banning 
> >>>french wine, french water, perrier & more.
> >>>
> >>>Among the changes I envision for the near future:
> >>>
> >>>French poodles will be renamed "freedom poodles"
> >>>French kisses will be renamed "freedom kisses"
> >>>French bread will be renamed "freedom bread"
> >>>All French Canadians will now be considered "Freedom Canadians"
> >>>"Frenchie" from the movie "Grease" will be renamed "Freedomie"
> >>>French horns will be renamed "freedom horns"
> >>>The actor "French Stewart" will be renamed "Freedom Stewart"
> >>>French Restaurants will either be burned or be renamed "Freedom
> >>>Restaurants" The Franco-Prussian war of the 19th century will be
> >>>renamed "The  Freedom-Prussian War"
> >>>The expression "Pardon my french" will be renamed "pardon my freedom"
> >>>Any and all Francophone cultures will be renamed "Freedom-phone
> >>>cultures" German shepherds will be renamed "freedom shepherds"
> >>>German cake will be renamed "freedom cake"
> >>>German cockroaches will be renamed "freedom cockroaches"
> >>>The word "Germane" will be renamed "freedom"
> >>>The German Chancellor Gerhardt Schreoder will be renamed "Freedom
> >>>Schreoder" "Germs" will be renamed "freedoms"
> >>>Germanic languages will be renamed "freedom languages"
> >>>German sausage will be renamed "freedom sausage"
> >>>German measles will be renamed "freedom measles"
> >>>
> >>>And finally, France and Germany will be renamed "The United States."
> >>>
> >>>David
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > "Reality is nothing more that a stubbornly persistent illusion" - 
> > Albert Einstein.
> 
> 

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HTML VERSION:

In the long term, world trade and banking interests (dominated by the U.S.) may be a greater threat to national sovereignty than the E.U.  
 
Investments of France and Russia motivate their desire for peace in Iraq.  China,
without such investments, may suffer loss of trade due to months of war and  occupation by the U.S. and U.K.
 
The WTO, the IMF, the World Bank and other agencies are by definition and practice
international in scope.  They bypass national governments, make huge loans to developing countries, and when those economies collapse, foreign interests buy assets at bargain basement prices - globalization in action.
 
Only the U.S. has the economic and military power to determine policy and action of international agencies.
 
Hugh
 
!^*^*!^!*^!*!^*!^!*^!*^!*^!*^!*^!*^!^*!*^!^!*^!!**^!!^*^!*^!^*!^*!*^!^*

 
> The long term political consensus is that it is a short term issue. That is
> caused by a misunderstanding of precisely what countries like Poland and
> Romania are signing upto on joining the EC.
>
> Perhaps they have not realised that they are signing away their national
> soveriegnty - and imagine that a socio-political bias towards the USA (as a
> bastion of freedom and the economic savior)is acceptable within Europe. The
> pro-USA bias which is common in eastern-europe is not sustainable -
> especially when I'm paying for it....
>
> regards
> steve
>
>
>
> when they effectivley sign over there
>
> > The split among Europeans over support of the US is not doing any  harm
> > to US interest in weakening the counterbalance of the European  union.
> > New alliance patterns are emerging.
> > Judy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>And the paranoid rumours from Paris are that the reason the USA is  so
> >>keen on european expansion is to prevent the EC becoming a
> >>greator challenge to the US hegemony...
> >>
> >>regards
> >>s
> >>
> >>David wrote:
> >>
> >>>All,
> >>>In case you hadn't already heard, many restaurants around the
> >>>country have renamed french fries "freedom fries."  As funny as it  is
> >>>sad and stupid, this isn't where the nationalistic stupidity and
> >>>black & white, us vs. them mentality (and I'm using the word
> >>>"mentality" liberally here) ends.  Many restaurants are banning
> >>>french wine, french water, perrier & more.
> >>>
> >>>Among the changes I envision for the near future:
> >>>
> >>>French poodles will be renamed "freedom poodles"
> >>>French kisses will be renamed "freedom kisses"
> >>>French bread will be renamed "freedom bread"
> >>>All French Canadians will now be considered "Freedom Canadians"
> >>>"Frenchie" from the movie "Grease" will be renamed "Freedomie"
> >>>French horns will be renamed "freedom horns"
> >>>The actor "French Stewart" will be renamed "Freedom Stewart"
> >>>French Restaurants will either be burned or be renamed "Freedom
> >>>Restaurants" The Franco-Prussian war of the 19th century will be
> >>>renamed "The  Freedom-Prussian War"
> >>>The expression "Pardon my french" will be renamed "pardon my freedom"
> >>>Any and all Francophone cultures will be renamed "Freedom-phone
> >>>cultures" German shepherds will be renamed "freedom shepherds"
> >>>German cake will be renamed "freedom cake"
> >>>German cockroaches will be renamed "freedom cockroaches"
> >>>The word "Germane" will be renamed "freedom"
> >>>The German Chancellor Gerhardt Schreoder will be renamed "Freedom
> >>>Schreoder" "Germs" will be renamed "freedoms"
> >>>Germanic languages will be renamed "freedom languages"
> >>>German sausage will be renamed "freedom sausage"
> >>>German measles will be renamed "freedom measles"
> >>>
> >>>And finally, France and Germany will be renamed "The United States."
> >>>
> >>>David
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > "Reality is nothing more that a stubbornly persistent illusion" -
> > Albert Einstein.
>
>
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