File spoon-archives/lyotard.archive/lyotard_2003/lyotard.0302, message 151


Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:09:33 +0000
Subject: Re: terms




Shawn

What leaky boundaries are these then?  As the Oncomouse is endlessly 
sacrificed it is closer to the darkness that is Bataille then Haraways 
happy Cyborg vision.... But then you are being romantic again Shawn... 
((I think it's the libertarian in you) one day I'm going to have to ask 
how you can ban the cyborg and it's friend the V8 SUV from a 
 libertarian position but not today)

and I'm probably ill with some nasty virus... off to a meeting in 10. M.

solidarity... sigh

regards
steve

shawn wilbur wrote:

>Steve,
>
>The Haraway take precisely abandons the security of a clear-cut
>human-animal divide that would justify such use. The cyborg is
>all about "leaky boundaries." Nothing is more fundamental to
>Haraway's approach. This is clear in the "Manifesto" and even
>more so in later work.
>
>-shawn
>
>steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Geoff
>>
>>A bit excessive and unnecessary. Using chickens in a sacrifical sense does
>>not require Haraway, rather the Haraway take (Cyborg Chickens) would surely
>>continue to extend the 'right of humans' to use the chickens as they see fit...
>>
>>A continuation of the tradition founded at the time of the neolithic
>>industrial revolution or before perhaps.
>>
>>regards
>>steve
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Quoting Eric <ericandmary-AT-earthlink.net>:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I sometimes feel like a canary inside a golden cage trapped inside a
>>>>coal mine.  In times like these, every song echoes death.
>>>>
>>>>eric
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>This is a wild tangent, but I heard on NPR how the US tanks in Iraq are
>>>being  outfitted with live chickens in the event of a biological
>>>attack.  It's called  Project K.F.C., though I can't recall what it
>>>stands for.
>>>
>>>These chicken-canaries,
>>>caged to tanks,
>>>bound for the Iraqi a coal mine.
>>>
>>>...can we, following Donna Haraway's lead towards the OncoMouse, regard
>>>these  strapped birds as a shared flesh?
>>>
>>>geof
>>>      
>>>
>
>  
>


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Shawn

What leaky boundaries are these then?  As the Oncomouse is endlessly sacrificed it is closer to the darkness that is Bataille then Haraways happy Cyborg vision.... But then you are being romantic again Shawn... ((I think it's the libertarian in you) one day I'm going to have to ask how you can ban the cyborg and it's friend the V8 SUV from a  libertarian position but not today)

and I'm probably ill with some nasty virus... off to a meeting in 10. M.

solidarity... sigh

regards
steve

shawn wilbur wrote:
Steve,

The Haraway take precisely abandons the security of a clear-cut
human-animal divide that would justify such use. The cyborg is
all about "leaky boundaries." Nothing is more fundamental to
Haraway's approach. This is clear in the "Manifesto" and even
more so in later work.

-shawn

steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk wrote:

  
Geoff

A bit excessive and unnecessary. Using chickens in a sacrifical sense does
not require Haraway, rather the Haraway take (Cyborg Chickens) would surely
continue to extend the 'right of humans' to use the chickens as they see fit...

A continuation of the tradition founded at the time of the neolithic
industrial revolution or before perhaps.

regards
steve

    
Quoting Eric <ericandmary-AT-earthlink.net>:


      
I sometimes feel like a canary inside a golden cage trapped inside a
coal mine.  In times like these, every song echoes death.

eric
        
This is a wild tangent, but I heard on NPR how the US tanks in Iraq are
being  outfitted with live chickens in the event of a biological
attack.  It's called  Project K.F.C., though I can't recall what it
stands for.

These chicken-canaries,
caged to tanks,
bound for the Iraqi a coal mine.

...can we, following Donna Haraway's lead towards the OncoMouse, regard
these  strapped birds as a shared flesh?

geof
      

  


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