File spoon-archives/lyotard.archive/lyotard_2003/lyotard.0302, message 50


Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:57:15 +1000
Subject: Re: what is at stake with fear?


Steve/All,
Comments at **

Hugh

The latter point simply doesn't work - it must assume that either prior to
govenments existing, or after modern govenmentshave ceased existing, after
they have been eradicated perhaps, some forms of mediated 'fear' will cease
to exist.
**  I didn't mean to imply that governments or corporations would cease to
exist.

Whilst we can imagine, in suitably utopian terms, that after a succesful
social-revolution and the eradication of the society of the spectacle that
such fears will be eradicated - but why would we be that naive ?  Recently
the list has touched on the work of Ken Macleod  in these works as in the
work of the earlier novels of the Strugatsky brothers; post-the-revolution
work, effort, war and death still exist. It seems unreasonable to generalise
that war and terror will dissapear with this society...
**You can believe what these authors write, but is it true?,  will it
happen?  Does it pertain to the war fears of February 2003?

** Without being utopian, ordinary citizens can resist and are resisting the
fears that are fomented to initiate pre-emptive war.

The point that most philosophers appear to be making is that 'fear' as such
is founded on the "idea of outsideness" and that the "world that is simply
to alien and other" - there is ample  evidence to suggest that this is a
reasonably rational response to the world.
**It  may be rational opinion unlikely to result in action. More and more
books don't equate to action.  Russian and Chinese revolutions were made
with blood and bullets, not Das Kapital

regards
Hugh





   

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