File spoon-archives/lyotard.archive/lyotard_2003/lyotard.0304, message 110


Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 18:44:44 +0100
From: "steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk" <steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk>
Subject: Re: the fragility of reality




All

0.    reality exists -

Nothing overtly radical here - objects and events may be studied in one 
time and place and not in another. But atoms have existed in there 
present and recognisable form much longer than the the solare system - 
even if they only became serious objects of scientific study in the 
early 20th C. (Not withstanding the Democritus and Dalton hypotheses)


regards
steve



Glen Fuller wrote:

> Eric,
>
>    1. Such a reality does not exist.
>
> 2.       Such a reality exists, but cannot be known.
>
> 3.       Such a reality exists and can be known, but cannot be 
> described in language.
>
>  
>
> Sorry to go all pomo (it seems almost as bad as being liberalist (god 
> forbid!) on this list), what about, "4. 'Reality' exists as a product 
> of language."? And language in the sense of communication, including 
> extra-linguistic. If you are thinking I am reducing it 'all' to a 
> textuality, maybe I am but only in a radical sense.
>
>  
>
> Glen.
>
>  
>
> PS Check out: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2838.htm 
> FWDed.
>


HTML VERSION:

All

0.    reality exists -

Nothing overtly radical here - objects and events may be studied in one time and place and not in another. But atoms have existed in there present and recognisable form much longer than the the solare system - even if they only became serious objects of scientific study in the early 20th C. (Not withstanding the Democritus and Dalton hypotheses)


regards
steve



Glen Fuller wrote:

Eric,

  1. Such a reality does not exist.

2.       Such a reality exists, but cannot be known.

3.       Such a reality exists and can be known, but cannot be described in language.

 

Sorry to go all pomo (it seems almost as bad as being liberalist (god forbid!) on this list), what about, “4. ‘Reality’ exists as a product of language.”? And language in the sense of communication, including extra-linguistic. If you are thinking I am reducing it ‘all’ to a textuality, maybe I am but only in a radical sense.

 

Glen.

 

PS Check out: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2838.htm FWDed.



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