Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:31:07 +1100 From: hbone <hbone-AT-optonline.net> Subject: Re: How many Iraqi civilians were killed, injured Steve, I agree about the numbers and about the media. The media are so blatant. I think "post-this" and "post-that" isms and ists just cloud the issue, but that's only one opinion. The efforts of all the U.S. experts to make the occupation sound benign are pathetic. They agree that progress in Israeli-Palestine problem is critical, but its hard to imagine a solution. regards, Hugh ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hugh Given the soutrces of the numbers perhaps it's worth saying that I'm not convinced on the accuracy of the numbers. It is just that they were and are the only ones I've seen so far. The British Govenment blamed Hussain for the deaths of the 1,000,000 people who died as a result of sanctions since 1991 - in reality they were just denying responsibility for the deaths that their policies had caused. I'm sure that they will be justifying this recent collection of deaths on the Baathists rather than accepting their own role in the events. Whereas in the past I'd have agreed that it was a military-industrial complex these days, good post-situationist that I try to be, I'd suggest it is a military-information complex, a phrase that allows the importance of the media-celebrity machines to be recognised and acknowledged, from the 19 year old celebrity girls employed to kill and maim to middle aged reporters riding in tanks towards Baghdad... regards steve hbone wrote: Thanks, Steve. Surprised that more Iraqi military than civilians were killed. Killing civilians in with bombs in WWII was routine. If U.S. taxpayers spent 75 billion of taxpayers money to kill 5000, that would be 15 million each. The military industrial complex is getting more complex. The military destruction is near complete, Construction contracts have already been secretly awarded to Halliburton and Bechtel. Every time we do this (with coalition help) there's a new cycle of profit. regards, Hugh Subject: Re: How many Iraqi civilians were killed, injured Hugh The list form the 17th April - Casualties so far. Source: Reuters US - 125 killed (18 non-combat deaths); 495 injured; 3 missing UK - 30 killed; (22 non-combat deaths); 74 injured Iraqi military - about 2,320 (coalition estimate); 9,000 PoWs Iraqi civilians - 1,252 killed; 5,103 injured (Iraqi estimate); 1,402-1,817 (The Iraq Body Count organisation estimate) Journalists - 13 killed; 2 injured; 2 missing British military casualties. Source: MoD British personnel identified as dead: 30 British personnel missing in action: none British personnel identified as prisoners of war: none All this is defense of neo-conservative (american values... ) regards steve hbone wrote: All, I may be naive, but I thought that since most of the 191 countries of the United Nations, World disapproved of Iraqui Freedom, somewhere, someone would post a list of estimated deaths and injuries Iraquis paid for Iraqui Freedom. Google gives more than 200 hits. A first-level scan of a few dozen, produced no current estimates. Why? Hugh
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