From: steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:00:09 +0100 (BST)
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_silence,_enfans,_il_y_a,_sublime?=


Eric

lack of clarity on my part (not unusual as you know ) - sorry. I'll clarify 
what I was attempting to say later

regards
steve

regards
steve
> Steve wrote:
>  
> Thus I doubt the "ethical life" proposal that followed the quote from
> Eric - unless the enfans can be forcibly seperated from the
> psychoanalytical meanings of the child, which I doubt.
> 
> 
> 
> Steve:
>  
> You need to unpack this a little more.  As it stands, I can't make any
> sense of it. 
>  
> Of course I am working towards a psychoanalytical approach to ethics,
> as I believe Lyotard and Lacan were doing, and Badiou and Zizek are
> still doing.  I see the inner child as a touchy feeling new age
> abomination and I don't think this is what Lyotard meant by the enfans
> at all; not at all..the enfans is closer to the inner bitch inside each
> of us, the lawless bastard.
>  
> I also don't see how this involves me in a defense of the noble savage
> (the concept of which I explicitly critiqued in my posting) or some
> implicit defense of liberal capitalism as the ultimate horizon of
> ethics.  Obviously, ethics and politics are not mutually exclusive. Are
> you implying that in the name of good politics, one can only practice
> bad ethics?
>  
> If your argument is one that wants to place ethics within a framework
> of ecological relationships as well as human ones, I am in agreement
> with you. I certainly didn't mean to limit ethics to the practice of
> good manners among well-behaved adults, but rather with the struggle to
> foster something which present day society cannot allow and which
> remains alien to it, but which is necessary if humanity is to continue.
> Think of the slaves on the southern plantations keeping alive a memory
> and tradition as best they could and you have some idea of what ethics
> means today.  The point is, the system of the southern plantation
> extends its mentality, even today, throughout the world as it continues
> to bind us libidinally to the broken earth of comparative advantage. 
>  
>  
> eric
>