File spoon-archives/lyotard.archive/lyotard_2003/lyotard.0305, message 60


From: gvcarter-AT-purdue.edu
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 11:43:37 -0500
Subject: Re: objects, facts,monsters



Arnold Rorschach, from the 70's sitcom, Welcome Back Kotter (Carte(r)), raises 
his hand and sez, "Oh, Oh, Ohhhhhhhh! Call on Me!"

Such a hand--a "darye," a "dare ya," is one that the Principal called 
on "derisiv[e]ly," tho' Kotter will have indulged...in-"duh"-ulged.

Here's Terry Eagleton, another Sweathog:

"Der der, deary didi! Der?  I?  Da!  Deary?  da!  Der I didida; da dada, 
dididearyda.  Dadareder, didireader.  Dare I die deary da?  Da dare die didi.  
Die derider!  Didiwriter.  Dadadididididada.  Aaaaaaaaa!  Der i da"  (MOdern 
Movements in European Philosophy, ed. Kearney, 113).

"Donkee" = the gloomy liberal (dem. symbol), Eeyore

Might the donkee be "depose(d)," by continual differals behind ("derrier") the 
carte ("card").  That is, in the case of Daston's dast-ardly move to say the 
Post is in the dead letter pile that it is rather a "return to sender" that 
will have never arrived but is still coming?  If only for the pleasure?  

What might it mean to "Go Postal" in a affirmative sense?  Eeyore, it would 
seem to me, is a negative manifestation.  Eeyore is Nietzsche's Ass. 

As Deleuze sez to the latter, "The ass and the camel do not only have the 
strength to carry the heaviest burdens, they have a back for estimating and 
evaluating their weight.  These burdens seem to them to have the weight of the 
REAL.  The real as such--this is how the ass experiences its load.  This is why 
Nietzsche presents the ass and the camel as impervious to all form of seduction 
and temptation:  they are only sensitive to what they have on their backs, to 
what they call real.  Thus we can guess the meaning of the ass' affirmation, of 
the yest which does not know how to say no:  this kind of affirming is nothing 
but a bearing, taking upon oneself, acquiescing in the real as it is, taking 
reality as it is upon oneself...The idea of the real in itself is an ass' idea" 
(Nietzsche and Philosophy 181).  

"Je pense," I think,  "JepenSEER," I seer.  (Not "snort," "deny," or "sneer")...

"gosum"  

A Game of Go; a game of space

Sum more?

Another Post Carte
                   


Quoting hbone <hbone-AT-optonline.net>:

> 
> ?daryederisivlyderydederrida
> duhdonkeedepose'derrierdecarte
> (r)postalejepenseergosum"
> 
> >
> > Steve/All,
> >
> > Daston's notion of "post" and "monsters" strikes a chord w/ my recent
> reading
> > of Derrida.  Perhaps the latter's notion of the Post Card has, alas,
> "reached
> > its destination," in the failure of the "neo-liberal counter-reformation"
> that
> > you mention.
> >
> > Or, perhaps, the "return to imperialist and colonialism" is a "return to
> > sender"--having not (yet) reached its destination--that is now a
> Post(Card)
> > that if it does find its way back to the original address (Derrida's own
> > lodging at house of a collegue on sabbatical at Yale?), begins to chase
> its way
> > back to the sender.
> >
> > The dissementation of Derrida's addresses, however, will likely make
> > this "return to" difficult.  Derrida, after all, has "addressed" a great
> deal.
> > Others (like Lyotard) have, too, of course.  And that is to say that
> Daston's
> > notion of a discourse that has "come into being" and has now "passed
> away"--the
> > dead letter pile of the post?--is one i am not so sure of.
> >
> > You say that the "prefix 'post'" is one that appears "increasingly
> > irrelevant."  In a static sense, through a "signpost" in the ground, a
> post
> > that has the prefix of a "sign," perhaps you're right.  To follow, again
> > Derrida, I note that he uses the "sign" prefix in relation to "sponge"--
> > actually the "S" is indeterminate, as makes "signS" of "sign" and "sponge"
> of
> > Francis "Ponge."  (Elsewhere he does the same with Blanchot, Hegel, and
> Kant)
> >
> > Signsponge discusses the pre-text, the signature, where he says that "it
> is
> > necessary to scandalize resolutely the analphabet scientisms...before what
> one
> > can do with a dictionary...One must scandalize them, make them cry even
> louder,
> > because that gives pleasure, and why deprive oneself of it, in risking a
> final
> > etymological simulacrum."
> >
> > "Lorraine Daston" is anagrammically "a denial or [a] snort."  What does
> > Lorraine deny?  What does he snort at?
> >
> > As to monsters, if I might make this a Derrida Theme(Park) post, sez that
> "the
> > future is necessarily monstrous: the figure of the future, that which can
> only
> > be surprising, that for which we are not prepared, you see, is heralded as
> a
> > species of monsters.  A future that would not be monstrous would not be a
> > future; it would already be predictable, calculable, and programmable
> tomorrow"
> > (Points pg. 387).
> >
> > You say that the "'post' seem to be increasingly irrelevant, perhaps
> because so
> > many of the texts produced failed to address precisely what the counter-
> > reformation was attempting to achieve."
> >
> > Failed to address...failed to address...the notion of "post" IS a failed
> > address, perhaps....
> >
> > At the end, of your message, you discuss the "impossibility of work" (due
> to
> > jetlag).  I wonder if one might discuss Daston's work in relation to
> "jetlag"--
> > the "impossibility" of the post, which one nevertheless attempts to
> explore, in
> > the "lag" that attempts (im)possibily to catch up.
> >
> > Here's to jetlag and monsters,
> >
> > G. Carte(r)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 




   

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