From: "Eric" <ericandmary-AT-earthlink.net> Subject: RE: what is philosophy and this list for ? Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:50:46 -0600 Hugh, That posting was sent by me in happier days perhaps when I still believed in the Lyotard list and thought it was possible to have a meaningful group discussion about him. There have certainly been moments, but things never really turned out the way I expected they might. The hoped-for discussions never really materialized. I have seen similar situations in other groups as well. I was never one to believe the internet meant the virtual flowering of democracy in the so-called new economy, but I thought at least it might offer a way for people outside the academic community to take part in meaningful philosophical discussions. Now I'm not so sure. Today the internet seems much closer to Wal-Mart than to the Greek agora. I would still stand by that piece, however, and add the following quote to it, taken from Lyotard's essay 'The Survivor'. "the "law" of development finds both a means and a mask even more powerful (because more acceptable to "philistines")than totalitarian organization. Crude propaganda is discreet in democratic forms: it gives way to the inoffensive rhetoric of the media. And worldwide expansion occurs not through war, but through technological, scientific, and economic competition. The historical names for this Mr. Nice Guy totalitarianism are no longer Stalingrad or Normandy (much less Auschwitz), but Wall Street's Dow Jones Average and the Tokyo's Nikkei Index." I still find those words as chilling as they are true. Though one could certainly argue that our current military adventure in Iraq proves that war is still part of the equation, it is hard to deny the argument that capitalism, especially in the fundamentalist version of American exceptionalism, has become the new form of totalitarianism. To paraphrase Orwell, it is a little like a Nike running shoe stomping on a human face. The list offers little solace for coping with this situation and I guess I wonder at times why we even bother to continue the pretense. It does seem at times like a very lonely adventure. eric --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.524 / Virus Database: 321 - Release Date: 10/6/2003
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