File spoon-archives/lyotard.archive/lyotard_2003/lyotard.0312, message 107


Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:41:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Evgeni Pavlov <evpav-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zizek-Politics-Deleuze


Steve, 

I can't quite see what is the issue that you want *to hit him with
over the head* - if he attacks multiculturalism, how is it bad for
him if you accuse his of sexism? doesn't his attack on political
correctness (examplified in his *sexist* remarks that are not
acceptable - for what reason?) in a way have to result in a challenge
of the accepted *multicultural* norms - you simply point out that
unacceptedness! if i were to say: X's intelligence is overrated. and
you were to respond: are you calling X stupid? I'd only have to say:
duh! zizek's *sexist* remarks are to be looked at not in terms of his
personal views (your attacks are thus classical ad hominem), but in
terms of what they challenge and why. am i playing his game? i wish i
was as able in games as zizek - anyway, i take it as a compliment...

--- "steve.devos" <steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk> wrote:
> Evgeni
> 
> Given that Zizek spends so much time attacking multicultural,
> identity 
> and particularists positions it's only right to hit him over the
> head 
> with the issue... but for you to accuse him of being overweight and
> 
> smelling funny is to engage in his game.
> 
> regards
> steve
> 
> Evgeni Pavlov wrote:
> 
> >>In this sense a racist or sexist joke told by Zizek remains a 
> >>demonstration of his racism and sexism - it is the act of telling
> >>the joke that is problematic not the joke itself.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >we should, of course, add to this line of *thought* that zizek is
> >also a pervert (long passages about a *talking vagina*) and a
> >pornographer (detailed descriptions of hardcore porn-scenes) and
> an
> >anti-semite (jokes about jews) and a playboy (texts about
> seduction
> >of women) and he's overweight and probably smells funny - the
> support
> >for steve's arguments against zizek is overwhelming... 
> >
> >evgeni
> >
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