Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:41:11 -0800 (PST) From: Evgeni Pavlov <evpav-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Zizek-Politics-Deleuze Steve, I can't quite see what is the issue that you want *to hit him with over the head* - if he attacks multiculturalism, how is it bad for him if you accuse his of sexism? doesn't his attack on political correctness (examplified in his *sexist* remarks that are not acceptable - for what reason?) in a way have to result in a challenge of the accepted *multicultural* norms - you simply point out that unacceptedness! if i were to say: X's intelligence is overrated. and you were to respond: are you calling X stupid? I'd only have to say: duh! zizek's *sexist* remarks are to be looked at not in terms of his personal views (your attacks are thus classical ad hominem), but in terms of what they challenge and why. am i playing his game? i wish i was as able in games as zizek - anyway, i take it as a compliment... --- "steve.devos" <steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk> wrote: > Evgeni > > Given that Zizek spends so much time attacking multicultural, > identity > and particularists positions it's only right to hit him over the > head > with the issue... but for you to accuse him of being overweight and > > smelling funny is to engage in his game. > > regards > steve > > Evgeni Pavlov wrote: > > >>In this sense a racist or sexist joke told by Zizek remains a > >>demonstration of his racism and sexism - it is the act of telling > >>the joke that is problematic not the joke itself. > >> > >> > > > >we should, of course, add to this line of *thought* that zizek is > >also a pervert (long passages about a *talking vagina*) and a > >pornographer (detailed descriptions of hardcore porn-scenes) and > an > >anti-semite (jokes about jews) and a playboy (texts about > seduction > >of women) and he's overweight and probably smells funny - the > support > >for steve's arguments against zizek is overwhelming... > > > >evgeni > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > --- StripMime Warning -- MIME attachments removed --- > This message may have contained attachments which were removed. > > Sorry, we do not allow attachments on this list. > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/
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