Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:01:33 +0000
From: "steve.devos" <steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk>
Subject: Re: zizek's deleuze - (political) consequence(s)


Evgeni/all

" and finally in relation to politics, the deadlock and impotence of the 
popular "Deleuzian Politics" are outlined. The target of critique here 
involves those apsects of Deleuzianism that, while masquerading as 
radical chic, effectively tra nsform Deleuze into an ideologist of 
todays 'digital capitalism'...." Zizek (xii). No asking just a statement.

The Deluezian politics includes - Anti-globalisation, WSF, ESF, Naomi 
Klien , Negri and Hardt, Kristeva, participatory democracy....Badiou is 
discarded slightly differently as a Jacobin. I think he's wrong, and the 
implications of his argument are a return to the avant-garde leninism 
that signally failed last time, he suggests nothing else.

regards
steve



Evgeni Pavlov wrote:

>if all of the above observations are to be accepted as true, what is
>then the political result of deleuze's ontology of OwB, i.e. of his
>materialism? zizek discusses the self in terms of the virtuality of
>its consistency, i.e. there is a virtual self, not material self - so
>what? zizek goes to science and technology in order to show that they
>"render obsolete the free and autonomous liberal-democratic subject"
>(p.132) so what is left are autonomous partial objects (OWBs) in a
>variety of assembleges - this autonomization of the partial object in
>deleuze, insists zizek, is "the very moment of the extraction of the
>virtual from the actual" i.e. in lacanian terms one is confronted
>with the Real - again, where all of this is going? to steve's
>favorite text - p.184 - deleuze as the ideologist of late capitalism:
>if there is not unified subject with a body but only a "vaguely
>coordinated agglomerate of partial objects" then we are no longer
>dealing with person but with the multiplicity of intensities and
>bodies as collective/impersonal desiring machines (p.184) is this
>logic not the logic of late capitalism? that's all zizek is ASKING,
>not really PROPOSING in the book. any thoughts?
>
>evgeni
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