File spoon-archives/lyotard.archive/lyotard_2003/lyotard.0312, message 135


Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:37:00 +0000
From: "steve.devos" <steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk>
Subject: Re: zizek notes 1 - virtual/actual


Evgeni

sorry can't oblige - firstly all my notes on  the discussion went when 
my toshiba was stolen and secondly the last thing I have any desire to 
engage in at the moment is a detailed discussion of precisely why a 
binary system misrepresented as one pole of the binary pair being 
dominant over another is a Hegelian structure. 

anyway sorry can't oblige...

steve

Evgeni Pavlov wrote:

>steve, 
>
>  
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>>Evgeni in an earlier note interpreted the the relationship between 
>>the Virtual and the Actual in vaguely hegelian terms. That is to
>>    
>>
>say
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>>that he represented the Virtual and the Actual as a binary system 
>>in which one is understood as dominant  (master) and the other 
>>dependent (slave). 
>>    
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>
>sorry i must have missed this message cuz i just saw it - what in the
>world are you talking about there about *hegelian terms*? do you mean
>a phenomenology section on master/slave (lord/bondsman) dialectic in
>the self-consciousness chapter? how in the world is it applicable to
>TERMS when it is clearly a section about self-consciousnesses and
>plus it is a low stage of the spirit's self-actualisation and has
>little to do with hegel's own position - care to elaborate? 
>
>evgeni
>
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