File spoon-archives/lyotard.archive/lyotard_2003/lyotard.0312, message 15


Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:47:11 +0000
From: "steve.devos" <steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Zizek on Deleuze


Evgeni,

I'll clarify and draw out the Zizek/Deleuze material shortly as I think 
it is worth doing - I'm thinking about the elements that I'm most 
interested in trying to unpack at the moment. You stated in another 
email that you wern't sure if 'this' was the right place. I think it is 
because there are a number of people who are directly interested in the 
Zizek intervention into the Deleuze texts. 

My own initial irritation (rant) with Zizek's text we should ignore - 
because it's probably not worth exploring to far beyond what may come 
out during the discussion of the specific text.

regards
steve

Evgeni Pavlov wrote:

>Steve, 
>i have just reread your comments about zizek's reading of deleuze and
>i didn't really find anything that specifically refers to zizek's
>position(s) on deleuze - you start by stating that zizek's book is
>inferior to badiou's, i.e. a personal preference statement because no
>arguments are visible, ok, your call. then comes your summary of
>zizek's position in terms of the *real* however it is not clear if
>you are simply summarizing zizek or presenting his argument in
>deleuze book - you continue with a couple of observations about
>zizek's style, again your own observations that are not supported by
>any arguments, for example, I enjoy reading zizek's repetitions and
>his cute ways of raising questions in *what if*s - then comes your
>speech about *celebrity intellectual* and that's about it. so i
>wonder if i missed your posting where you directly address a
>multitude of issues that are raised by zizek's in his deleuze book,
>cuz i honestly wouldn't know where to begin... 
>
>evgeni
>
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