Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:53:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Evgeni Pavlov <evpav-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zizek on Deleuze


Steve, 
That is fine with me, lead the way, I might read Zizek's book again
then sometimes this week, although I am reading now his little book
on Lenin - I think it came out in Croatia or somewhere there, but it
was also published as an article, i think, it's important for
preliminary reading of zizek's book on deleuze cuz he talks about
repeating lenin's *politics of truth* and criticizes (again)
multiculturalism and unquestionable acceptance of liberal democratic
values.  

Evgeni

--- "steve.devos" <steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk> wrote:
> Evgeni,
> 
> I'll clarify and draw out the Zizek/Deleuze material shortly as I
> think 
> it is worth doing - I'm thinking about the elements that I'm most 
> interested in trying to unpack at the moment. You stated in another
> 
> email that you wern't sure if 'this' was the right place. I think
> it is 
> because there are a number of people who are directly interested in
> the 
> Zizek intervention into the Deleuze texts. 
> 
> My own initial irritation (rant) with Zizek's text we should ignore
> - 
> because it's probably not worth exploring to far beyond what may
> come 
> out during the discussion of the specific text.
> 
> regards
> steve
> 
> Evgeni Pavlov wrote:
> 
> >Steve, 
> >i have just reread your comments about zizek's reading of deleuze
> and
> >i didn't really find anything that specifically refers to zizek's
> >position(s) on deleuze - you start by stating that zizek's book is
> >inferior to badiou's, i.e. a personal preference statement because
> no
> >arguments are visible, ok, your call. then comes your summary of
> >zizek's position in terms of the *real* however it is not clear if
> >you are simply summarizing zizek or presenting his argument in
> >deleuze book - you continue with a couple of observations about
> >zizek's style, again your own observations that are not supported
> by
> >any arguments, for example, I enjoy reading zizek's repetitions
> and
> >his cute ways of raising questions in *what if*s - then comes your
> >speech about *celebrity intellectual* and that's about it. so i
> >wonder if i missed your posting where you directly address a
> >multitude of issues that are raised by zizek's in his deleuze
> book,
> >cuz i honestly wouldn't know where to begin... 
> >
> >evgeni
> >
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