Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 18:45:16 +0000 From: "steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk" <steve.devos-AT-krokodile.co.uk> Subject: Re: sideways - incapacity eric The reason why I tend to try and get beyond the question of 'fairness' and 'suffering' is because it always ends up in a fruitless discussion of the rights of animals to inflict pain and suffering on others. That is to say the rights of human beings to destroy entire sub-species of animals in their own interests is assumed to be equivilant to other creatures inflicting pain and suffering in order to survive. This is singularly uninteresting for me because it is clear that such cases have been adequately addressed by utilitarian philosophy at least since the recent reinvention of the animal-rights and liberation movements. But I have no desire to restrict the question to utiltarian understandings, though I do have some sympathy for these positions and will always regard these ethical positions as sounder and more useful than for example Levinas. We have I think established that we are merely animals, inhabitants in the biosphere and as such together it is perfectly acceptable for me to agree that justice should involve all 'parties fairly'. It is true that it is possible to misunderstand the implications of evolutionary theory and believe for example that any living human has more value than any other animal, however this is not a sustainable position because of the implications of the scientific work notably that humans are only assemblies of genes, but also because of the philosophical work on rights, suffering and difference. Any understanding of the theories of evolution that places one species as superior to another is always going to be a misunderstanding, an ideological misreading of the theory - to accept the truth of evolution is to recognize that one assemblage of genes is completely equivilant to any other, the theory of evolution is founded on a radical equivilance. If there is an issue with regard to the utilitarian philosophical line from which the best of the animal-rights and specieist statements have derived it is precisely that it is founded on 'pain and suffering' , the inability to go beyond the latant humanism, an aware human having greater value than a non-human is obviously unacceptable - but the pain and suffering aspect is more problematic in that it is founding the idea of morality/ethics judgements on the human inability to not inflict suffering on others. You are correct in that I am placing all singularities, including specific instances such as you or george the cat, as equivilant on the plane of difference. I'm unclear why such a radical equivilance, is not an inevitable result of Deleuze and Guattari's own thinking about this. The first truism of political-philosophical action is that you need to recognize the historically constructed nature of a body politic before we can successfully try to change it. If the best we can do in the circumstances is to argue that we should not torture animals to death in the interests of mass consumption including: gourmet dinners, the pleasures of slaughtering, or cosmetics -- because they suffer pain then we have a problem being trapped within the dominant axiomatic. I am suggesting rather that we currently have arrived at the possibility of making the argument from a better position. Deleuze and Guattari's twin injunctions should be kept in mind: firstly don't be satisified with the subject your've been given, experiment with the strata and secondly always evaluate carefully because you cannot tell ahead of time what is going to work, we know not to believe 'that a smooth space will suffice to save us' - which is understandable but the alternative you are offering here is to continue within the axiom of radical inequality. I'd need to see a way of building an alternative which allows any two singularities to be considered as always equivilant. The most relevant area of Deleuze's ontology is the section where it emphasizes the intensive morphogenetic processes that produce from disequilibirum - equilibrium/steady state/stable systems. These processes show intensive properties that cannot be changed beyond critical thresholds without some major change in kind and that show the capacity for merging, meshing into networks of bodies that still preserve the heterogeneity of the members (singularities) even whilst showing systematic emergent behaviour. However whilst in the evolutionary structures both organic and inorganic we can see this, especially in ecosystems, human groups and so on - in the morphogenetic processes which are charecterised by rates of change and difference, any change in relations past the critical threshold will trigger qualitative changes in the assemblages. The example of the predator-prey relation that you raise between a song-bird and it's cat predator is an assemblage, the assmblage is an abstraction from a more complex problem involving the processes of the entire biosphere (which incorporates climate, geological, social and so on) -- the point being that if you extrapolate up from the predator-prey relation it begins to be clear at the higher levels of abstraction that no singularity can be raised above another. The assemblage could as well be thought of as a dialectical relation in this case. I simply do not acknowledge that you have the right to judgement over a song bird or a virus - the idea that you can have judgemental rights over their existance or non-existance, in effect over the assemblage of their relationship is to misunderstand what the 'technology of the assemblage' is- whereas you would presumably claim that you do not have such rights over other human beings. To declare nature as a zero-sum game is to deny our responsibility for the current extinction event - nature as considered in its 'actuality' is currently a human activity - from the temperature of the planet to the species that will exist in 25 years time and those which will be on the verge of extinction and not something external in which we exist.... enough for now... steve --- StripMime Warning -- MIME attachments removed --- This message may have contained attachments which were removed. Sorry, we do not allow attachments on this list. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---
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