Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 09:20:03 +0200
From: Hugh Rodwell <m-14970-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se>
Subject: M-FEM: Re: Diana Spencer


This from m-psy might interest m-fem.

Cheers,

Hugh

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Chris Burford wrote:

> Julian raises points about her bulimia. While she clearly benefitted from
> psychotherapy I sense too that she was still to some extent acting out,
> alternating chaotically between trying to be too perfect, and indulging
> privately out of control. I am interested in his observation about
> aggression. That would fit with her being a complete dunce at school and
> yet obviously  intelligent now at least in an intuitive way.
>

Dear Chris,beside "de mortuis nil nisi bene" my conclusion from my experience
in bulimia therapy is, that the noxis is in the conlict between
the need for symbiotic, pre-oedipal nearness and the contradictional need
for the developement of autonomy, in this struggle there work the
triad of very early defence mechanism of incorporation, splitting and
projective identification. Those defence mechanisem are in this case
transported by mass media to us and are causing a psychotic dream
inculding the idealisation and diabolisation. a "good" and "bad" mother.
The pre-oedipal phaenomena work only with feelings of fear, anger,
and quite stages, when the need is fulfilled, there is a lack of sadness
and melancholy, because the object relationship has not be lost
in the oedipal conflict, because there was not such a conflict, because
there was not an oedipal triangle. Those clients say to be sad or melancholic,
but they do not know the feeling of sadness, they feel hate and anger
and call it sadness or depression.
Therefore often those clients have "unused" faces, like of marmore,
which by pretty women is often seen as "beauty".
Men with same determinants become schizofrenic, when women become
bulimic or anorectic. My hypothesis for this phaenomena is,
that the women in those cases do not have the burden of changing they
identification with an early mother, but man does.

It is a pity, that the media are not interested in psychoanalytical point
of view of such phaenomena.

Julian


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