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Date: 	Sat, 6 Sep 1997 10:26:57 -1000
From: Stephen E Philion <philion-AT-hawaii.edu>
Subject: Re: M-FEM: Re: Diana Spencer


Hmmm, speculatively interesting, but re: Di's bulimia, well...who cares?
Steve

On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Hugh Rodwell wrote:
> This from m-psy might interest m-fem.
> 
> Hugh
> _____________________________________
> Chris Burford wrote:
> 
> > Julian raises points about her bulimia. While she clearly benefitted from
> > psychotherapy I sense too that she was still to some extent acting out,
> > alternating chaotically between trying to be too perfect, and indulging
> > privately out of control. I am interested in his observation about
> > aggression. That would fit with her being a complete dunce at school and
> > yet obviously  intelligent now at least in an intuitive way.
> >
> 
> Dear Chris,beside "de mortuis nil nisi bene" my conclusion from my experience
> in bulimia therapy is, that the noxis is in the conlict between
> the need for symbiotic, pre-oedipal nearness and the contradictional need
> for the developement of autonomy, in this struggle there work the
> triad of very early defence mechanism of incorporation, splitting and
> projective identification. Those defence mechanisem are in this case
> transported by mass media to us and are causing a psychotic dream
> inculding the idealisation and diabolisation. a "good" and "bad" mother.
> The pre-oedipal phaenomena work only with feelings of fear, anger,
> and quite stages, when the need is fulfilled, there is a lack of sadness
> and melancholy, because the object relationship has not be lost
> in the oedipal conflict, because there was not such a conflict, because
> there was not an oedipal triangle. Those clients say to be sad or melancholic,
> but they do not know the feeling of sadness, they feel hate and anger
> and call it sadness or depression.
> Therefore often those clients have "unused" faces, like of marmore,
> which by pretty women is often seen as "beauty".
> Men with same determinants become schizofrenic, when women become
> bulimic or anorectic. My hypothesis for this phaenomena is,
> that the women in those cases do not have the burden of changing they
> identification with an early mother, but man does.
> 
> It is a pity, that the media are not interested in psychoanalytical point
> of view of such phaenomena.
> 
> Julian
> 
> 
> --
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