Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 10:26:57 -1000 From: Stephen E Philion <philion-AT-hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: M-FEM: Re: Diana Spencer Hmmm, speculatively interesting, but re: Di's bulimia, well...who cares? Steve On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Hugh Rodwell wrote: > This from m-psy might interest m-fem. > > Hugh > _____________________________________ > Chris Burford wrote: > > > Julian raises points about her bulimia. While she clearly benefitted from > > psychotherapy I sense too that she was still to some extent acting out, > > alternating chaotically between trying to be too perfect, and indulging > > privately out of control. I am interested in his observation about > > aggression. That would fit with her being a complete dunce at school and > > yet obviously intelligent now at least in an intuitive way. > > > > Dear Chris,beside "de mortuis nil nisi bene" my conclusion from my experience > in bulimia therapy is, that the noxis is in the conlict between > the need for symbiotic, pre-oedipal nearness and the contradictional need > for the developement of autonomy, in this struggle there work the > triad of very early defence mechanism of incorporation, splitting and > projective identification. Those defence mechanisem are in this case > transported by mass media to us and are causing a psychotic dream > inculding the idealisation and diabolisation. a "good" and "bad" mother. > The pre-oedipal phaenomena work only with feelings of fear, anger, > and quite stages, when the need is fulfilled, there is a lack of sadness > and melancholy, because the object relationship has not be lost > in the oedipal conflict, because there was not such a conflict, because > there was not an oedipal triangle. Those clients say to be sad or melancholic, > but they do not know the feeling of sadness, they feel hate and anger > and call it sadness or depression. > Therefore often those clients have "unused" faces, like of marmore, > which by pretty women is often seen as "beauty". > Men with same determinants become schizofrenic, when women become > bulimic or anorectic. My hypothesis for this phaenomena is, > that the women in those cases do not have the burden of changing they > identification with an early mother, but man does. > > It is a pity, that the media are not interested in psychoanalytical point > of view of such phaenomena. > > Julian > > > -- > My ArtWork - moje obrazki > http://www.jsbielicki.com/gallery/ >
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