Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:11:10 +0200 (MET DST)
From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens)
Subject: Advocacy of help to Hilter fascism in 1940


I asked:

(Rolf:)
>>In the second world war, the country in which I was born,
>>Norway, was attacked by the Hitler fascists, as were many
>>other countries. Norway could by then absolutely with justice
>>be counted among the exploiting countries in the world. What
>>would Bob Malecki say on the queston of defending Norway in
>>1940 - should the Marxists have advocated *not* to defend
>>that country then?


(Bob M:)
>Poor little Norway. A capitalist country in its own right, just as Sweden 
>was. The fact that the Nazi's occupied Norway was tactical-The British tried 
>to occupy Norway also to block Germany from the Atlantic Ocean. If I 
>remember correctly Stalin and company were still applauding the fascists at 
>this point! No, I would not have avocated defending "Norway" but would have 
>joined the Communist-Trotskyist resistance in preparing for a revolutionary 
>overthrow of the German occupiers, but also the Norwegian bougeoisie and 
>setting up a workers republic. And as far as the Soviet Union was concerned, 
>despite Stalin's pact with Hitler we would have defended the Soviet Republic 
>with guns in hand because this state was not a bougeois state but a state 
>built on the gains of the October revolution at the same time we would have 
>been working for a political revolution to oust the counter revolutionary 
>Stalinist bureaucracy.

Trotskyite help for the Hitler fascists, then! Here it's stated
quite openly.  

It also is a fact that at the time, in 1940, there *was* an
alliance between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. This gives
rise to some quite difficult questions concerning history.
I'll pass them over for now. It remains a fact that Hitler's
assault on Denmark and Norway on 09.04.1940 *was* a fascist
aggression. 

>>
>>I'd also like to refer once more to the Lenin quote I brought
>>in my first reply to this post of Bob's. It had to do with
>>Belgium, 1916. If that country was annexed by Germany in 1917

>
>I would like you to prtoduce the exact quote of Lenin and in which context 
>he purportedly made this statement. 

I've already posted the exact quote, with notes on when
and where it was written/published. Se post with another
subject line.

Rolf M.