Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:27:08 +0200 (MET DST)
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: Re: Advocacy of help to Hilter fascism in 1940


>I asked:
>
>(Rolf:)
>>>In the second world war, the country in which I was born,
>>>Norway, was attacked by the Hitler fascists, as were many
>>>other countries. Norway could by then absolutely with justice
>>>be counted among the exploiting countries in the world. What
>>>would Bob Malecki say on the queston of defending Norway in
>>>1940 - should the Marxists have advocated *not* to defend
>>>that country then?
>
>
>(Bob M:)
>>Poor little Norway. A capitalist country in its own right, just as Sweden 
>>was. The fact that the Nazi's occupied Norway was tactical-The British tried 
>>to occupy Norway also to block Germany from the Atlantic Ocean. If I 
>>remember correctly Stalin and company were still applauding the fascists at 
>>this point! No, I would not have avocated defending "Norway" but would have 
>>joined the Communist-Trotskyist resistance in preparing for a revolutionary 
>>overthrow of the German occupiers, but also the Norwegian bougeoisie and 
>>setting up a workers republic. And as far as the Soviet Union was concerned, 
>>despite Stalin's pact with Hitler we would have defended the Soviet Republic 
>>with guns in hand because this state was not a bougeois state but a state 
>>built on the gains of the October revolution at the same time we would have 
>>been working for a political revolution to oust the counter revolutionary 
>>Stalinist bureaucracy.
>

Rolf writes;
>Trotskyite help for the Hitler fascists, then! Here it's stated
>quite openly. 

Where is  my "Trotskyite help for the Hitler fascists,then--quite open" in 
my above statement Rolf? And as far as Lernin's quote the political line i 
purpose fits like a glove into Lenin's quote.

I said above; 

"I would not have avocated defending "Norway" but would have 
>>joined the Communist-Trotskyist resistance in preparing for a revolutionary 
>>overthrow of the German occupiers, but also the Norwegian bougeoisie and 
>>setting up a workers republic."

In other words not supporting the Bougeoisie and the king. But a communist 
resistance to the Nazi occupation and opposing restoring the old bougeois 
order prior to the occupation. Naturally this would have been linked to the 
struggle in Denmark, but also Sweden. 


>It also is a fact that at the time, in 1940, there *was* an
>alliance between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. This gives
>rise to some quite difficult questions concerning history.
>I'll pass them over for now. It remains a fact that Hitler's
>assault on Denmark and Norway on 09.04.1940 *was* a fascist
>aggression.

Oh ! Pass over Comrade Stalin will you. A minute ago you falsely accused me 
and the Trotskyists of supporting Hitlers invasion of Norway only to in the 
next breath "pass over" Stalin's *real* alliance with Hitler at the same 
time. You are a joke Rolf.  Do you really think anybody will believe this 
kind of stuff.

Bob Malecki