Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 13:16:51 +0100 (MET)
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: Re: M-G: China: Who's true - Bob 1 or Bob 2?


Rolf writes;

>Bob Malecki on 24.12. replied twice to postings of mine
>in which the ongoing hosting-taking in Peru was 
>discussed. Both times he i.a. mentioned the present
>regime in China, which I of course, who supported the
>earlier, very successful socialist system there under
>the leadership of Mao Zedong, have been characterizing 
>as a bourgeois dictatorship of the fascist type, the
>rule of a bunch of revisionist enemies of the people.
>
>Now if you take what Bob M. wrote on that regime in
>those two replies of his, it seems that on China too,
>there are two different Bobs.

Not really Rolf!
>
>In his first reply, subject line "Re: M-G: Re: M-I:
>MRTA Has History Od High-Profile Attacks", he scolds
>me for *attacking* the bourgeous regime in China:
>
>>In fact Rolf you have even deserted  the Chinese
>>deformed workers state whereas the Trotskyites still
>>defend China against imperialism.
>
>(So the Trotskyites are saying China today is some
>kind of "socialist" state! A state that's "against"
>imperialism and not very much a part of the entire
>imperialist system!) But in his second reply, subject
>line "Re: M-G: Peru?: Who's true - Bob 1 or Bob 2?",
>he tries to make people believe that it's *I* who am
>*defending* that fascist regime in China; he points at
>its extremely reactionary character, which of course is
>known to all, as an "argument" *against* me:

Trotskyists do not call China "socialist". Trotskyists call China a deformed 
workers state from the very day of its inception. In fact a type of 
transitional state that came out of the Stalinist school. And yes 
Trotskyists defend this state against imperialism.
>
>>In fact when push comes to shove my sympathies lie
>>even more with the MRTA because they don't kill
>>leftist opponents and in fact the Cuban revolution,
>>despite its deformities is much better that what
>>is going on in China!

Yes, despite the deformities of the Cuban model i have more sympathy with it 
then the Chinese. But sympathies does not change political line of defending 
both of these states against imperial attack and calling for political 
revolutions.

Bob Malecki

PS: In your other letter about "alliances" I really don't understand the 
point your are trying to make at all. This

>So when Rolf is in bed with the German imperialists on
>the question of Nuclear power, or on bed with "the
>progressive Swedish Bougeois he finds himself in the
>arms of the outspoken Menshevik on the list.

and this

>But you are  not a political coward Rolf.! This has 
>been the tactic of Maoists historically. Everybody is 
>either a cop, agent of imperialism, agent Fujimora, or 
>agent of something if they do not bow to the alter of 
>the Maoist god building sects.

are just obvious facts. Positions that you have taken. The first on Nuclear 
power and the second and obvious example is your position on the Quispe,Gina 
and the Red Flag people.

Nothing contradictory at all. Just the truth Rolf.

Bob Malecki
 
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