From: dr.bedggood-AT-auckland.ac.nz Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:35:15 +0000 Subject: M-G: Re: Kevin's feeling better > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 21:51:46 -0500 (EST) > From: Kevin Cabral <kcabral-AT-freenet.columbus.oh.us> > Subject: Re: M-I: Re: "getting it up" > To: marxism-international-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU > Reply-to: marxism-international-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU > On Sun, 29 Dec 1996 dr.bedggood-AT-auckland.ac.nz wrote: > > Dr. Bedggood from New Zealand says all of the following: > > > A little seasonal drama is unfolding in the M-I list as its members > > trickle back from solstice struggles with the cranberry sauce jar: > > Yesss! Louis has had an insight. But its hardly new. Lou has cut and > > pasted his past thirty postings, but eliminated 9 out of 10 > > sentences in each: > > >Now we know what Lou has been doing during the solstice - attending > > a CPUSA writing school where phrases such as "estimable Doug > > Henwood", "hagiographers skulking perennially in the wings" and > > "priceless legacy of Marxism-Leninism" are phrases used as examples of how to > > reach today's switched-on youth: > > But wait, Kevin has an important qualification [no its not the fact > > that he is infantile, male, midwest US and an earnest neophyte]: > > I'm sure Louis Proyect has difficulty understanding what he is doing > > some of the time. Nevermind, easy get rid of these difficulties in one > > easy motion by asking [snip]: > > Maybe he is an electrician, or Louis is: I wouldnt want to be within a > > thousand miles of him when he pulls his switch, but is it a switch he > > [Kevin] wants to pull? > > Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha - maybe Kevin reads > > afterwards: > > I have this image of Lou and his friend sitting in their circle > > getting it up. But this is naughty. I should really concentrate on > > the politics. So here goes. > > Now after all the bullshit we get to the core of Dr. B's politics, ad > hominem politics that is. Classicly fanatic stuff: > > > Lou and his circle of admirers, neophytes or whatever, push a > > blatantly US centrist, male, petty-bourgeois fatalistic view of the world. > > As usual, Lou and co are revising marx to account for something that > > is right under their noses, they own failure to take responsibility > > for being part of, refusing to condemn, menshevik/stalinist > > past/present role in betraying the industrial working class. Instead > > they take the time-honoured route of blaming the working class for > > "not getting it up" in 1917 and foreever more. > > Well, Menshevik circles of this sort wouldnt recognise > > workers "getting it up" if it was under their noses. For example with > > the 20/20 vision of hindsight, Lou can't see Russian workers, he can't see > > any workers anymore engaged in struggle. Your not alone in > > this today Lou, its a common complaint on the `left' which does not > > make it right. But don't flatter youself Lou that this is some new, scientific, > > updating of Marx. Your "theoretical insights" have their roots in the > > petty bourgeois, predating Marx. You have the same old problem that > > has plagued the petty bourgeois left for at least a century, you dont > > want workers to make a revolution because that would make you > > historically superfluous and your little influential "circle" just so > > much binary bullshit. Well try telling that to the workers Lou and > > Co and see if workers are capable of sustained and disciplined > > violence. > > Red kiwi lurking in the wings. > > Apparently the Red Kiwi is a visionary. He, unlike fatalistic, > petty-bourgeoisie males from the United States, can see worker's > struggles and from this synthesize the experiences of the past into the > theory and practice, dialectical praxis, of the future. Unlike > class-collaborationist Mensheviks, or is the appropriate insult here > Stalinist?, like ourselves the Red Kiwi is able to see past our grand > intellectual group jerk and praxologically integrate the great curve of > history which, in direct opposition to the ideology of anti-communist > Proyectism and the Portuguese-fascist inspired revisionism of Godenas and > Cabral, turns out to have a outermost limit, in the second quadrant, of > -1917. What this startling revelation really means is that workers are > really to make a revolution. The key, comrades, is to stop our academic > debates about Marx. We must stop our intellectual babbling and go to the > people! Tell the workers we are capable of sustained violence against the > bourgeoisie state. Tell them! Tell them, and they will trade in their > televisions for shotguns. The workers of the world are waiting for > revolution, and this revolution will not be betrayed by the opportunism of > Proyect and his fellow provocatours. We are but naught we shall be all; > the workers of the world will soon off the rentiers, and opportunists in > the same glorious blow. Who will follow me? Meet me at Starbucks tommorrow > at 4:00pm EST and we will, guided by this great insight by our Honored > Leader, begin the onslaught. > > - > Kevin > Cols, Oh > > Well Kevin, how do you feel now? Do you still think Russia 1917 is passe? > > > > --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > --- from list marxism-general-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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