File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1996/96-12-31.174, message 8


Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:02:25 +0100 (MET)
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: M-G: The Neo-Stalinist,MenshevikTrojka! (part 2)


Joao continues;
>
>11. "Alliance of the workers and the peasents"
>
>The peasent question in the most developed capitalist countries has been
>completely shaken since then. The bourgeoisie has learned its bit too.
>It doesn't like to be fired upon from two fronts. As things are for the
>moment in Europe, with heavy subsidizing of agricultural production by
>state and UE institutions, I don't think we stand much of a chance of
>having the peasentry on our side. Anyway, its number has decreased
>dramatically. We would expect further advance of the capitalist
>relations of production into the countryside but that is precisely where
>the bourgeois-peasent alliance is puting the brakes on. In developed
>countries, wherever the small peasentry isn't nearly extinct it's
>heavily engaged in the bourgeoisie's embrace.

I think here that the alliance of the workers and peasants will have to be 
changed. In some countries to be replaced with and alliance of workers and 
urban poor..
>
>
>12 - "The fight against imperialism and war"
>
>This is mostly of pure historical interest.

Yes and will have to be rewritten before the next imperialist showndown.
>
>
>13. "The worker-peasent government"
>
>The same here. The worker-peasent alliance could still make some sense
>in countries like India, Egypt or Indonesia but it must engage a faction
>of the local bourgeoisie in some kind of national-popular democratic
>regeneration movement. Success for a proletarian revolution is
>unthinkable here unless integrated in a global movement that strikes
>decisively the core capitalist countries.

OK. I will buy this.
>
>
>14. "The soviets"
>
>Fine.
Ditto...
>
>
>15. "Backward countries and the program of transitory demands"
>
>There are no "colonial or semi-colonial countries" left. Permanent
>revolution is out of business, if it ever made any sense. No
>significative "feudal heritage" can be found anywhere. No national
>independence problems. All countries of some relevance in the world
>today are predominantly capitalist and industrialized, although most of
>them are peripheric and dependent, which is totally another problem.
>There are more hunter-gatherers than "feudals" now-a-days but I suppose
>we're not considering permanent-revolutionizing the inuit, the
>amazonians or Iryan Jaya.
>Permanent revolution was an interesting concept in the sense of world
>revolution. But if we have learned something with the XXth century
>revolutions it is precisely that we can't voluntaristicaly whip out some
>isolated backward country into socialism just like that.

Joao, In a sense you are reasoning right and drawing the wrong conclusion. 
In fact your reasoning proves the theory of the "Permanant Revolution"...
>
>
>16. "Transitory demands program in the fascist countries"
>
>Painful to read. Totally frustrated expectations.

Actually this section will perhaps be absolutely vital if a proletarian 
solution to the coming crisis does not evolve!
>
>
>17. "The situation in the USSR and the tasks of the transitory epoch"
>
>The same here. Wrong, totally wrong analysis.
>How could he, at this time, still point "real bolcheviks" among the
>"soviet" burocracy? I wonder what happened to Reiss. He must have had
>cardiac colapse on reading this. The GPU found him stone dead already.
>"Cain-Stalin"? Is this premonitory or something? Iosip Djugashvili,
>where is your brother Leon?

Look, why don,t you admit that you are of the Schactmanite "state 
capitalist" school. And actually this stuff is not irrevelant because of the 
disintegration of the Soviet Union. We still have the deformed workers 
states like China,Cuba, North Korea, and Vietnam to deal with.
>
>
>18. "Against oportunism and unprincipled revisionism"
>
>A bit of rhetorics won't do no harm. No analysis of the different
>patterns of reformist and oportunistic degeneration is offered. No ways
>shown for avoiding them. 

Well, what Trotsky meant is taking on those who had left the field of 
Bolshevik Leninist politics for another political line. Historically the 
Stalinistsand Mensheviks and today the neo-Stalinists and Mensheviks.
>
>
>19. "Against sectarianism"
>
>This must be against the bordiguists and other left-communists. It's a
>piece of sectarian loathe on its own, wrapped up in dreams of grandeur.
>Worst was to come. I just wish he could have followed trotskyism.

Partially! 
>
>
>20. "A place for youth! A place for labouring women!"
>
>Sure, why not. If this is the only prescription available against
>oportunistic degeneration, I'm afraid it won't take us very far.
>
>
>21. "Under the banner of the IV International"
>
>Well, I'm afraid the "sceptics" were right. It didn't work. It had a
>complete program, doctrine, tradition and some cadre endowed with an
>"unmatched temper". How ungrateful of the workers not to have gathered
>at once under this "stainless banner". I'm glad there are some dedicated
>people still trying to kick start this thing.

Don,t count on it. The struggle is certainly not over and in fact the 
objective conditions (the demise of the Stalinists and the desertion of the 
Social Democracy to the Bougeoisie) are better today then at any time before 
the creation of the Left Opposition and later on the FI. In fact it is the 
leftovers of the Stalinists and the Social Democrats that are reallt 
desperate these days. 
>
>Now, my trotskyite friends. This document here is a precious historical
>relic indeed, but it's quite obvious it can only have a very residual
>and occasional usefulness in any serious reconstructive effort of
>marxist politics today. Why do you keep brandishing it like the holy
>grail of revolution?

Well, it is because the neo-stalinists, Mensheviks, worker Communist, who 
are continually trying to organise new defeats for the working class with 
programs that are even far more "precious historical relics"! All of the 
stuff that you people are coming with is just a reprise of the old. This 
makes the Trotskyist and their program vital in the future of organising a 
Bolshevik Vanguard against the political programs that you represent. In 
fact that is what has and will be ging on both before now and in the future. 
The basic tenants of revolutionary politics bothh tactically and 
programatically have not real changed very much in the last decades. The one 
positive thing for the working class is that the Stalinists no longer have 
state power in the Soviet Union nor the parties Internationally to enforce 
their line as before in history. Thus leaving the way open for a chance for 
the Trotskyists and Bolshvik Leninists to once again take the stage at the 
head of the Proletariat..

Naturally part of that process is exposing our Trojka on MI who would 
despite all the rhetoric continue with the old rotten politics of Staliism 
and Menshevism under the guise of something "new".

Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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