File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/97-01-04.073, message 19


Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:00:56 +0100 (MET)
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: Re: M-G: Re: A very important debate (Ebonics)


Sally wrote;
>I agree with you here, Bob. For those around the world that might not be
>following this issue, the Oakland, California school board has called for
>wide-spread teacher training, and NOT to have Ebonics (Black English)
>replace standard English. If teachers are trained to understand what their
>students are saying, they can begin to teach them.
>
>Schools that already volunteered to implement the teacher training have
>reported an improvement in test scores in English language. As Bob pointed
>out these kids are not at all disabled, but are labeled as such very early
>as a result of negative attitudes toward Ebonics.
>
>There is amazing confusion over this issue. It kind of goes to shows that
>even Standard English does not ensure perfect communication. (Heresy to
>those that are acting like any form of English is now in peril).
>
>Now, of course, all American students should also be learning a foreign
>language, but that's another subject....
>
>Sally

Hi Sally! 

I am pissed off at you. They say that you left alt.Trotsky because of that 
asshole Scott. Is it true? I was just replying privately to someone else on 
this stuff so i will just add it to what you haver to say on the Ebonic 
question.

Thanks for the instructions. The Ebonics debate is all over the place. I 
hooked into it  on Alt. Activism, and Talk. politics.misc, but it is being 
cross posted all over the place under all kinds of headers. The key word 
being ebonics. My letter which you 
i assume read was shipped back to me by the postmaster. He let it through to 
one newsgroup. So today I put in as and answer to every header i could find 
on Ebonics!

It appears to have enraged a number of people.Already my mailbox is getting 
warm and it is only 12 o:clock PM on the east coast now. But it is just 
these kind of discussions where communists can really have a chance to 
agitate and argue,. Because it draws in so many political questions. Already 
I have had to make answers to people on Usenet on not just the language 
stuff, but rascism.slavery, black nationalism, Jesse Jackson, and a whole 
lot of other stuff. It is great. I love it!

It cuts across all the bullshit because people are moved by this kind of 
discussion. It is cutting across the backbone of politics in the states in 
many different ways.

Bob Malecki 

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