Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:08:51 +0000 Subject: M-G: Re: M-I: Hooked on Ebonics Doug writes: >>Can Ebonics thus be studied not for its roots in West Africa but for its >>servile characteristics? I have been asking this question since my first >>post, and so far I don't think I have got a straight answer. Remember, >>African-Americans left West Africa a few centuries ago and we should not >>abstract the study of language (in this case Black English) from the >>relations of domination in which it has developed. > >These are excellent questions. Just what *is* the evidence from >linguistics? Is the alleged West African source of A-A speech >well-established, or is it the recent invention of Afrocentrists? > >And doesn't an unconjugated form of "to be" present a bit of a problem in >expressing time and counterfactuality? Or is there a way around that? I ask >this in all seriousnessness; I haven't the slightest clue of an answer. The sources of Black English are (naturally) very controversial. Read some basic stuff on the origins of Pidgin and Creole languages, such as Peter Trudgill provides in his book on Sociolinguistics. What usually happens is that a couple of very distinct language systems collide and intermesh, like badly aligned and dimensioned clutch and gear systems. All the bits that get in the way are stripped off. As against the engine analogy, the thing gets going anyway instead of grinding to a halt. Only the grammatical subtleties are removed from things like word endings to word order and the like. Two examples from living and dynamic state languages can put Doug's mind to rest about the difficulties languages might have expressing time or whatever because of some formal properties of the verb "to be". Chinese does the same. And English lost lots of special forms of verbs during its time as a Norman-French-cum-Anglo-Saxon Creole (also known as Middle English). Chaucer was writing in a stabilizing Creole language. Have a look at the history of Middle English and you'll see the emergence of a more or less standardized state language from a lawless bunch of Creole dialects. Cheers, Hugh --- from list marxism-general-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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