File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/97-03-01.001, message 34


Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:34:52 -0500
Subject: M-G: Re: M-I: Levy doesn't want to argue?! 


Proyect writes:

>What she used to say about this movement is the same thing that I am saying:
>the class composition is heavily student and lumpen proletarian. This is a
>movement without much social weight. We, as Marxists, tend to orient to
>movements that have social weight, such as the labor movement or the women's
>liberation movement.

Well Jerry might not have a class analisis, but neither does Proyect! In 
fact Communists would certainly give critcal support to "squatters". Because 
communists defend the interests of poor and working class people-despite the 
heavy lumpen and student composition of this movement.  And Proyects 
"orientation" to the labor movement and women*s movement only means that 
Proyect has another appetite to capitulate to. I mean the popular front and 
feminism are deadly enemies of the proletariat just because they can not 
draw a independent class line! So in fact the big fight and class analisis 
turns out to be dip shit. On the one hand the FSLN popular frontism and on 
the other petty bougeois feminism of women that draw a sex line instead of a 
class line. In fact the squatters i would certainly love to stand side by 
side with in their struggles whereas the circles that Proyect travels in 
have already proved that they are traitors!

In reality Proyect has no class analisis! He has time and again proven on 
this list that he tails and supports everything that has led to great 
historical defeats for the working class. The only principle it appears is 
if it is big enough then he would support it.

 And Jerries support to the squatters is a hell of a lot better then 
Proyects last great theroretical contribution to this list on "Yankee 
Doodle" socialism.. Where Proyect is preparing a block with anything that 
moves even if it means the most vulgar form of social patriotism. 

>For acceptance into the marxism-international list there are higher
>standards. Your Ph.D. means about as much to us as soiled toilet paper. Go
>do your homework, you lazy brain-dead pedant. Go research this squatters
>movement and provide us with hard information. Your trouble is that you lack
>the intelligence to organize such a project. Even if you had such
>intelligence you lack the ability to concentrate your efforts on its
>preparation.

Who said that Proyect knows who is acceptable on this list or not? And 
"higher standards" what a joke. Proyect has been baiting people as being 
cops and agent provacateurs. 

>
>From a personality standpoint, I have much in common with Howard Stern and
>other shock jocks. You have picked a fight with me that I tried to prevent
>for the longest time. Now that you have my attention, you will regret it. I
>swear this.

Well well well I bet everybody is just shaking in their shoes Proyect. A 
whining neo Stalinist Menshevik to the core politically going after Jerry. I 
bet that makes you think you are a big rrrrevolutionary!

I guess the only way we are going to calm you down Proyect is to answer you 
trash time and again politically. And the Bolshevik Leninists on this list 
certainly have no problem with that. This is why you have been taking on 
Jerry for a couple of months now. Because the Bolshevik Leninists ate you up 
for breakfast and completely exposed your polical bankruptcy.

Victory to the squatters through Proletarian revolution.




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