Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:46:39 -0500 Subject: M-G: Re: M-I: List-Lobotomising Zarembka Mark wrote; >What most interests me about all this is why, Bob (and I told you before >I respect you because I know with the same absolute certainty that when >the time comes to build the barricades, you and I will be on one sight, >still shooting the breeze about the 1930s, as I know who will be on the >other, whatever they say now)-- I say, what interests me is, if >socialism is on its knees and dying, if the ship is sinking as Neil >says, why then, if we are just a few fools pissing in the wind, is there >such a phenomenal amount of emotional energy behind the null attacks of >people like Zarembka or Jack Duncan? Why is there never an atom of the >same passion displayed about the evils of *this* world, the one we live >in today? How actually is it possible to live in such smug, complacent >ease while, as Einstein said, engrossing so much of the labour of >others, and feel such hollow indignation about Stalinist Russia in the >1930s, and not to notice the great crimes commited on their behalf on >every street-corner, almost? >The conclusion I have reached is that if people like Zarembka, Neil, >Duncan, whoever he is, hate Stalin so viscerally, then he must have done >something right. Well, the problem with our "anti-Stalinists" mentioned above is deversified and it depends on where you are coming from and where you are going.Paul Z. I think is using the "hate Stalinism" line not so much to draw Stalin through the mud but Lenin and the Bolsheviks! At the same time he appears to like to use the classical witchhunt and baiting that the Social Democracy just loves to attack any militants whether its is in the trade unions, a meeting or this list for example. The bottom line in all this i believe is certainly a hate for Stalinism (good) but much more important is the Social democratic fear of real Bolshevism and Proletarian revolution...That is why they immediately and all times start screaming about how horrible Communism is and put great big equal signs all the time between Stainism and the Leninists..Only in order to peddle that reformists sellouts. And it worked quite well in the post-war situation and the economic boom that came after the war where they could with there Keynesian politcs keep a few of their reformist promises to the working class. But this ONLY can be seen it the light of the bougeoisie in respective countries being willing to go along with this type of compromise both for "peace" in the labor market and in fact in face of the dire fear of and expansion of the Stalinist led states at the head of the Red army after the war. However today Paul Z,s arguements have a false clang to it! Because they really have nothing to offer the working class any longer with the historical class collaborationist schemes. In fact the death of Stalinism in way also sealed the doom of the post war Social Democracies and that is why we are seeing what is going on today both in Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, as elsewhere! So in fact Paul's ravings in a certain sense mean dip shit! Because the dialectical movement of the class struggle is pushing both the Stalinists and the Social Democracy into the hands of the bougeoisie and at the same time the policies of the new era after the disintegration is pushing the workers to the left both in their *real*living situation and also in a beginning of a new radicalization and rethinging of the old political ties. Naturally there is a huge vacum that must be filled. And the ravings of our Social democrats and the Stalinists sooner or later must come down to the CONCRETE in political PROGRAM and ACTION! And even with all of their shouting about these horrible discussions from the thirties is just a very funny hat trick by these people. Because in fact they just want to renew the politics of just those tendencies that has put the Proletariat in the position they find themselves in. The vacum that has been created both by the Stalinists and the desertion of the Social Democracy is a vacum which says that the "stupid" workers are once again moving. Now we either fill this vacum with a revolutionary Bolshevik Leninist leadership or we will either get a clone version rerun of a combination of neo Stalinist Menshevik politics or we will get facism! There is no other way out of the present crisis of leadership! So calm down Mark! Don't worry! These Stalinist and Social Democratic suckers ain't got nothin to offer the working class! Now to Neil our ultra left Bordigist with the state Capitalist line. Neil is a different story all together in a way. His history comes from a combination of ultra-left sectarianism on the one hand (the Bordigists) and a ultra right petty bougeois theroy on the former deformed and degenerated workers states. A combination of ultra left tacytics on the everyday questions like the trade unions and making allies with imperialism on the state cap questions both today and historically does not seem to me to be any serious threat! Neil will either break with his past and move to the left or the right. Otherwise it is the isolation in the desert that awaits his tendeny. A bigger danger is the state capitalism of the SWP (Adam's Party) because Adam takes some very good positions on individual issues of class struggle and then throws it all away when the transitional states did not go the way that we Bolsheviks would like it to have gone. And this is very dangerous because in the future we certainly are going to have lots and lots of "transitional" states and the state capitalist line of a plague on both your houses of the past means at least for me that Adam and the SWP want some kind of fucking high road to a communist society. And if you can not defend the gains of the old. Well then you will never be able to defend the new "transitional" societies of the future if the going gets tough or we gets some Bonapartist "coup de tats" and bureaucratic deformations which lead to all of those glorious political positions like "the third Red Front Period", "the popular front period", the stage theroy of revolution and Socialism in one country stuff... By the way I promise to keep and eye on you Paul because you want proof of your "Menshevism". It will be forth coming I promise. Just keep writting and i will fill in between the lines for you. Unfortunately i can not answer your letter now. This is my second post today and I want to write something to "yoshie" on the squatters which I think is important in this debate which is presently going on. Finally Gary our Australian Maoists....Fuck off you whinny little dickhead! I mean what else can i say when your letters are filled with the Malecki,Hugh Trotsky baiting and whining which appears to be your only tune at all. Why not come with something political so the Trotskyist like myself and Hugh can eat you alive and spit you out for breakfast. You can't! Because neo-Stalinists like you only come with your miserable "don't read that stuff" line. You are both boring and stupid. So stop wasting everybodies time with your fake organisational solutions in your hate the Trots on going campaign. By the way! One important question left on this Stalinism stuff. There are still a lot of people out there in the world who's only connection with Communism was and is the Stalinist scholl of falsification and political bankruptcy. In fact many of them are more then likely going to be very good class struggle militiants in the future! Once they get rid of the lethary and demoralisation and in fact the flirt with imperialism's fake "democracy" they are once again going to be looking for answers and ONLY the creation of cadre organsations Internationally who in theroy and practice base them self on the history of the Bolshevik Leninists Party, The first Four Congresses of the Third International, Trotsky and the history of the Left Opposition and the founding documents of the Fourth International can show the way forward! All other ways are doomed to failure and at best a clone version re-run of the past horrible mistakes of the Stalinists and the Mensheviks in the form of Social Democracy. So once again I say to Mark. Cool it! Don't worry the Neo-Stalinist and Mensheviks have nothing to offer and no *real* solution. They are at best treading water, standing still or going backwards. I am not really worried about them at all. Other then at present they are just a minor roadblock on the way to creating a revolutionary Communist International...In fact a much MORE MINOR roadblock then just ten years ago!!!!!!Ha Hah Ha Ha. That is so fucking funny.Really! SO very very fucking funny..Because it is the Stalinists and Mensheviks on this list and everywhere Internationally who are finally in deep shit asnd without a paddle.. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...:) I will stop there for now... Warm Regards Bob Malecki ================================================= Check Out My HomePage where you can, Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara, Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Crystalball! Or Get The Latest Issue of, COCKROACH, a zine for poor and workingclass people http://www.algonet.se/~malecki -------------------------------------------------------- --- from list marxism-general-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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