Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:46:39 -0500
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: M-G: Re: M-I: List-Lobotomising Zarembka


Mark wrote;

>What most interests me about all this is why, Bob (and I told you before
>I respect you because I know with the same absolute certainty that when
>the time comes to build the barricades, you and I will be on one sight,
>still shooting the breeze about the 1930s, as I know who will be on the
>other, whatever they say now)-- I say, what interests me is, if
>socialism is on its knees and dying, if the ship is sinking as Neil
>says, why then, if we are just a few fools pissing in the wind, is there
>such a phenomenal amount of emotional energy behind the null attacks of
>people like Zarembka or Jack Duncan? Why is there never an atom of the
>same passion displayed about the evils of *this* world, the one we live
>in today? How actually is it possible to live in such smug, complacent
>ease while, as Einstein said, engrossing so much of the labour of
>others, and feel such hollow indignation about Stalinist Russia in the
>1930s, and not to notice the great crimes commited on  their behalf on
>every street-corner, almost?
>The conclusion I have reached is that if people like Zarembka, Neil,
>Duncan, whoever he is, hate Stalin so viscerally, then he must have done
>something right.

Well, the problem with our "anti-Stalinists" mentioned above is deversified 
and it depends on where you are coming from and where you are going.Paul Z. 
I think is using the "hate Stalinism" line not so much to draw Stalin 
through the mud but Lenin and the Bolsheviks! At the same time he appears to 
like to use the classical 
witchhunt and baiting that the Social Democracy just loves to attack any 
militants whether its is in the trade unions, a meeting or this list for 
example. The bottom line in all this i believe is certainly a hate for 
Stalinism (good) but much more important is the Social democratic fear of 
real Bolshevism and Proletarian revolution...That is why they immediately 
and all times start screaming about how horrible Communism is and put great 
big equal signs all the time between Stainism and the Leninists..Only in 
order to peddle that reformists sellouts. And it worked quite well in the 
post-war situation and the economic boom that came after the war where they 
could with there Keynesian politcs keep a few of their reformist promises to 
the working class. But this ONLY can be seen it the light of the bougeoisie 
in respective countries being willing to go along with this type of 
compromise both for "peace" in the labor market and in fact in face of the 
dire fear of and expansion of the Stalinist led states at the head of the 
Red army after the war. However today Paul Z,s arguements have a false clang 
to it! Because they really have nothing to offer the working class any 
longer with the historical class collaborationist schemes. In fact 
the death of Stalinism in way also sealed the doom of the post war Social 
Democracies and that is why we are seeing what is going on today both in 
Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, as elsewhere! 
So in fact Paul's ravings in a certain sense mean dip shit! Because the 
dialectical movement of the class struggle is pushing both the Stalinists 
and the Social Democracy into the hands of the bougeoisie and at the same 
time the policies of the new era after the disintegration is pushing the 
workers to the left both in their *real*living situation and also in a 
beginning of a new radicalization and rethinging of the old political ties.

Naturally there is a huge vacum that must be filled. And the ravings of our 
Social democrats and the Stalinists sooner or later must come down to the 
CONCRETE in political PROGRAM and ACTION! And even with all of their 
shouting about these horrible discussions from the thirties is just a very 
funny hat trick by these people. Because in fact they just want to renew the 
politics of just those tendencies that has put the Proletariat in the 
position they find themselves in. The vacum that has been created both by 
the Stalinists and the desertion of the Social Democracy is a vacum which 
says that the "stupid" workers are once again moving. Now we either fill 
this vacum with a revolutionary Bolshevik Leninist leadership or we will 
either get a clone version rerun of a combination of neo Stalinist Menshevik 
politics or we will get facism! There is no other way out of the present 
crisis of leadership!

So calm down Mark! Don't worry! These Stalinist and Social Democratic 
suckers ain't got nothin to offer the working class!

Now to Neil our ultra left Bordigist with the state Capitalist line. Neil is 
a different story all together in a way. His history comes from a 
combination of ultra-left sectarianism on the one hand (the Bordigists) and 
a ultra right petty bougeois theroy
on the former deformed and degenerated workers states. A combination of 
ultra left tacytics on the everyday questions like the trade unions and 
making allies with imperialism on the state cap questions both today and 
historically does not seem to me to be any serious threat! Neil will either 
break with his past and move to the left or the right. Otherwise it is the 
isolation in the desert that awaits his tendeny. A bigger danger is the 
state capitalism of the SWP (Adam's Party) because Adam takes some very good 
positions on individual issues of class struggle and then throws it all away 
when the transitional states did not go the way that we Bolsheviks would 
like it to have gone. And this is very dangerous because in the future we 
certainly are going to have lots and lots of "transitional" states and the 
state capitalist line of a plague on both your houses of the past means at 
least for me that Adam and the SWP want some kind of fucking high road to a 
communist society. 

And if you can not defend the gains of the old. Well then you will never be 
able to defend the new "transitional" societies of the future if the going 
gets tough or we gets some Bonapartist "coup de tats" and bureaucratic 
deformations which lead to all of those glorious political positions like 
"the third Red Front Period", "the popular front period", the stage theroy 
of revolution and Socialism in one country stuff...

By the way I promise to keep and eye on you Paul because you want proof of 
your "Menshevism". It will be forth coming I promise. Just keep writting and 
i will fill in between the lines for you. Unfortunately i can not answer 
your letter now. This is my second post today and I want to write something 
to "yoshie" on the squatters which I think is important in this debate which 
is presently going on.

Finally Gary our Australian Maoists....Fuck off you whinny little dickhead! 
I mean what else can i say when your letters are filled with the 
Malecki,Hugh Trotsky baiting and whining which appears to be your only tune 
at all. Why not come with something political so the Trotskyist like myself 
and Hugh can eat you alive and spit you out for breakfast. You can't! 
Because neo-Stalinists like you only come with your miserable "don't read 
that stuff" line. You are both boring and stupid. So stop wasting 
everybodies time with your fake organisational solutions in your hate the 
Trots on going campaign.

By the way! One important question left on this Stalinism stuff. There are 
still a lot of people out there in the world who's only connection with 
Communism was and is the Stalinist scholl of falsification and political 
bankruptcy. In fact many of them are more then likely going to be very good 
class struggle militiants in the future! Once they get rid of the lethary 
and demoralisation and in fact the flirt with imperialism's fake "democracy" 
they are once again going to be looking for answers and ONLY the creation of 
cadre organsations Internationally who in theroy and practice base them self 
on the history of the Bolshevik Leninists Party, The first Four Congresses 
of the Third International, Trotsky and the history of the Left Opposition 
and the founding documents of the Fourth International can show the way forward!

All other ways are doomed to failure and at best a clone version re-run of 
the past horrible mistakes of the Stalinists and the Mensheviks in the form 
of Social Democracy. So once again I say to Mark. Cool it! Don't worry the 
Neo-Stalinist and Mensheviks have nothing to offer and no *real* solution. 
They are at best treading water, standing still or going backwards. I am not 
really worried about them at all. Other then at present they are just a 
minor roadblock on the way to creating a revolutionary Communist 
International...In fact a much MORE MINOR roadblock then just ten years 
ago!!!!!!Ha Hah Ha Ha. That is so fucking funny.Really! SO very very fucking 
funny..Because it is the Stalinists and Mensheviks on this list and 
everywhere Internationally who are finally in deep shit asnd without a 
paddle.. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...:)

I will stop there for now...

Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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