File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/97-03-05.123, message 70


Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 09:38:50 +0100 (MET)
From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens)
Subject: M-G: To Ang: Some facts contradict a recent thought of mine


Ang,

In a reply to Karl C. and to you on Zaire yesterday 03.03,
I among other things advanced as a possibility - since you
IMO had showed such strangely unquestioning acceptance of
those "theories" on the situation advanced, firstly, by such 
sources as the Wahington Pest, the New York Slimes, the 
International Herring Tribune, various TV slime channels of 
course and other organs of the US imperialist murder creeps
themselves and, secondly, by such sources as, I thought,
people must surely see belong to some of these creeps'
muppets for instance, that ridiculous "Workers' Voice",
Detroit - that you might be "one of them Hata Marys" or
whatever, i.e. writing somehow in bad faith.

I then had plain forgotten one thing, only a couple of
months ago, which I later remembered and which now makes me
discard that hypothesis as really a bit unrealistic to
begin with: Your quite forceful rebuttal of that attempt,
in early January, by the Biggie Brother Brezhnev adherent
Louis What's-Go(o)denaugh-for-the-Afghans to engage in
some Biggie Brothering against people on this list, or in the
particular case, against me. That was something which it's very
improbable, I think, that any "Hata Maryish" person  would
have done, it can hardly have been any kind of fake and
absolutely had a wholesome effect, being supported by
several others too.

Where did I think wrongly yesterday? I underestimated, I now 
think, how very difficult it in fact must be for many, in the 
USA for instance, to see through that double fog of massive 
imperialist misinformation, including the "ventriloquist
trick". You could even take that suscpicion of mine against 
you, Ang, as a kind of tribute to what I've thought was some 
rather meterialistic resoning on your part - although I did 
hold you to be wrong back in November of course and even 
more so now. I thought it very strange that you could still 
be falling for that crap.

Now who *is* it that's really falling for some crap on
Zaire - you or me? On principle, the question IMO should be
put over and over again. But surely, the two things I brought 
yesterday, for instance, the rather long reply of my own and 
the copied interview with my namesake Belgian Party of Labour 
chairman Ludo Martens, clearly and once more show that it's you
who're very much in the wrong on this. What do you say?

Rolf M.



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