Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:31:25 -0500 From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki) Subject: M-G: Re: M-I: Why don't we all wait... >Richard: B. writes; >I mean the people whose sole purpose on the list is to attack the >Communists. They attack the existing socialist countries; they attack >former and current Communist leaders; they critisise most national >liberation movements; they have shown no support for the hunger strikers >in your country. Their remarks are not comradely critisisms, or designed >to promote understanding and co-operation. Richard are you beginning to come out of the closet with your *real* line? Obviously the above is directed at some of the Trotskyists on the list and especially Malecki. And in fact on one particular point you are using some very basic vulgar lies and slanders which i find particuly despicable. When you talk about the hunger strikers in Turkey which was back on M1 I was very critical of the tactic of hunger strikes and still am. Because I do not think that Communist militants starving to death is a good tactic. But that certainly does not mean that Trotskyists were not on the side of the hunger strikers and called for their victory against the Turkish Prison system. Just as we are on the side of all of the oppressed who take up the struggle. However this does not mean everybody gets a free ticket and that tactics and line should not be discussed. And the other stuff is just the same old Stalinist garbage of uncritical support to "current communist leaders",national liberation movements", "socialist countries". In other words support Stalinist popular front politics, Stalinist leaders, bougeois national liberation fronts uncritically or be thrown off M-I. How quaint Richard. You have the mirror version of Aldolfo's politics. Aldolfo says that anybody who does not support the PCP, every speech that Gonzalo ever made, etc is and agent of Fujimora at best! Your line is throw everybody off the list who does not support your clone version of neo-Stalinist politics.. I think that Z has and the other moderaters have been doing a rather good job of trying to keep the M-I open to all points of view. I have certain critisisms of some of the decisions they have made however in the long run are trying to do their best. If the moderaters were to take your line of approach they might just as well paste a picture of Joe Stalin on the wall and say anybody who disagrees with his political line as expressed by the neo-Stalinists on this list in the form of "socialism in one country, communist leaders, the popular front, the stage theroy of revolution, uncritical support to third world liberation movements and all the rest are welcome anybody who critises the above are enemies of the proletariat and the revolution. What has happened to the ever so polite Richard B? Are you beginning to get worried that discussion on M-I coming from the Trotskyists makes it more difficult for you to bow and cowtow to everything that moves? Or is it that the real Richard is beginning to shine through behind the facade of rotten neo-Stalinist politics that you represent? Sorry if this sounds a bit sharp. But unfortunately Richard is advocating political bans of people that do not agree with his fundemental neo Stalinist political line.. By the way I resubbed and the mail from M-I appears to be working. Perhaps the 48 hour lapse was some sort of fruedian slip or we can write it off as some of the strange things that happen on this media.. Warm Regards Bob Malecki PS if Mark J is out their. Do not think that your latest unprincipled flim flam has gone unnoticed. I just can't wait to you get back here so I can attempt to eat you alive politically.. --- from list marxism-general-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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