Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:45:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: M-G: Aldofo, Detcom and Joe Stalin!




On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, Robert Malecki wrote:

<snip>
> 
> 
> Well Aldolfo, the Trotskyists have been around since the October Revolution 
> in the former Soviet Union. And in fact we watched good old Mao betray the 
> Shang Hai Proletariat already in the 1920ties. And the clone version of the 
> Maoists that the PCP represents the Trotskyists will also watch and see them 
> come and see them go as they march down new roads of betrayal of poor and 
> working class people represented in their rotten and completely bankrupt 
> Stalinist political line!

Malecki, my grandmother once said not to deal with people with mud
since one is likely to get splattered. But this is ludicrous.
First of all it is Shanghai not "Shang Hai". Could you explain to us
citing with historical facts how, as you say, "good old Mao betray the
Shang Hai proletariat." Please don't run to your superiors like Rodwell
and Bedggood for this.

> 
> Aldofo does not have any idea which forces are at work in Peru or 
> Internationally. And in fact his political orientation is based on decades 
> of treacherous Stalinist politics along the lines of the stage theroy of 
> revolution, the popular front, peasant gurellia warfare, and for Aldolfo 
> personally (like old Joe Stalin himself) threatening to shoot your political 
> opponents in the workers movement, the third period "Social Facsist" line 
> which led the German Proletariat to disaster and was the final nail in the 
> coffin of the Third International and naturally a fairly good portion of 
> Latin American "macho" male chavinism!

So you do not believe in stages. So were you BORN as a Trotskyist mouthing
all this garbage or did you gradually evolve to your current political
ideology? Besides this "death threat" business that you and your
compatriots (including M-I moderator Zeynep, whom I have christened as
our "Wise Woman from the East") are constantly bringing up is mightily
overblown. This episode evolved from the lines excerpted below from the
post by the crooked Levy (who has recently also joined M-G) who,
in a backhanded manner, actually suggested this
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>From glevy-AT-pratt.edu Mon Mar  3 10:02:05 1997
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:13:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Gerald Levy <glevy-AT-pratt.edu>
Reply-To: marxism-international-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
To: marxism-international-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
Cc: marxism-international-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
Subject: M-I: Re: List lobotomizing

<Snip>


Coming from a defender of Stalin, this is interesting. If *I* individually
am a disease, how do you plan to eradicate the disease? With a bullet?
With a Gulag? With a "show trial"?  Or -- the most likely scenario -- with
distortions, evasions, and character asasination?

Jerry

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Read the lines above which show clearly Levy's red-baiting. It was
in responese to this, that Adolfo wrote a sharp reply which was misinter-
preted as a " death threat" - and this has been continuously bandied
about ever since. One can remember your indignation and fulminations
a few months ago when Louis Proyect threatened to spread to many computer
lists about the lumpen activites in your past life. And you accused
Proyect of being a songbird to the ruling class. So what are you yourself
doing now when you are accusing someone of making "death threats"
falsely?

Look in the mirror and you will see, as Lenin said long ago, a 
reactionary phrase mongerer.

S. Chatterjee





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